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I wonder if they adjusted the action to balance out the black / white keys and/or somehow come up with adjusting the fulcrum point so the keys aren't quite as hard to press near the fallboard?

Awesome, thanks! I had come across a video today of someone playing jump and I thought it’d be fun to try out - I’m still flip flopping between the 3K and px560 and I figured I’d ask if that could be done on the 3K which I will admit I’m leaning more towards

Hi, Was wondering from any of the owners of a PX-S3000, is there a sound in the unit (or a way to manipulate one to sound similar to) like the sound used in Van Halen's Jump? just a curiosity question as I really don't know the full bank of sound options on the PX-S nor exactly how modifiable they are.

What portable power pack do you use? I remember seeing a video where pianomanchuck had used a small power pack (not the one where he used a battery backup) to drive one of his, but by the time I came across his video that power pack wasn't even made any more... Just out of curiosity, how did you end up modding your keybed?

You have an entertaining way of describing your thought process with regards to the two keyboards. I’m not a creator so - honestly - the 17 midi tracks are way overkill for me (most I might need is 1 - and even then probably not as if I record anything it’s straight to audio file, not midi). In terms of keyboard weight, this is a second unit for me and not my regular practice unit. My regular practice unit has a very accurate feel and both the keybed of the 560 (which I believe is the same as the CGP700 which I used to own) and the PX-S1000 I actually tried the feel of - neither are the same weight as my regular. The 560 and the 3000 both have pluses and minuses. I wish the 560 would come out with an update (and offer battery operation for a couple hours) then my decision would probably be easy

DOH! You’re right. Yet another reason why I shouldn’t respond to posts just after I wake up rofl. I’ll correct my post

(MISREAD RESPONSE REMOVED). I've been watching as many videos as I can find on both models - both demo of features as well as regular owners playing them to help me make my final decision. It does help that I'm not in a super rush Thank you for your input and thoughts And that video link, I don't remember seeing him in the ones I've watched so far (most of which have been Casio employee demos, various store demos, pianomanchuck and then a variety of people that have posted their performances). I’ll have to watch the other 4 of his videos that make up that series.

I can see what you two are saying (AndrewL and Brad Saucier). On one level I think the buttons would be nice, and it would be nice to have the screen. I'm honestly not sure I'd ever use the hex layers to create sounds myself (I really don't have a lot of knowledge on that level) but I can see where it would be pretty cool to be able to use someone else's that they've made available. The extra controls would be neat for trying things out. The midi recorder isn't really a huge deal for me either way - usually if I record I record straight to an audio file (more of a player than a creator). I will say I like the positioning of the USB A port on the 560 a hell of a lot better than where it is on the 3K (especially after reading from the person that accidentally left a usb stick in his 3K and when he packed it up he damaged the port ) On the 3K side, I like the 3 pedal input option that is only available via the furniture stand for the 560 (if I recall correctly) which kinda stinks. It has a newer sound engine, different speaker setup (not really sure if this is good or bad since I can't go and try both in person anywhere and hear the speakers since I don't always want to use a headset) and the action is different. I will say from my memory of the action on the CGP700 that I owned (bought back around the time they came out but I have since sold it) I think I liked the feel of the 3K keybed better (I was able to feel the 1K which uses the same keybed so...). I do like the idea of being able to be battery operated - it's not a must have feature but I do like it. Both have different advantages for the interface - on the 560 you have a touch interface right there, nothing more needed. For the 3K you get a basic interface which can be obnoxious to navigate into the menus (reminds me of the GP series interface when I looked at those a couple years ago) but with a mobile device you get a much more advanced interface that makes the unit much more pleasurable to manage. There is also a several hundred dollar cost difference 😕 So you can kind of see why I am having trouble. I'm still leaning a bit more toward the 3K but I haven't made my final decision yet.

Ouch, that sucks. Are you able to use it at all (even at a wonky angle) or are the pins totally messed up? if you send it in I'd be curious how it goes for the repair (how long / how much).

I did get to try the PX-S1000 (I mentioned in the original post about the same key action/speakers. Its speakers were aimed at the wall so decent sound reflection - no sure how it would sound away from the wall. The tone itself was quite pleasing - so that part was good :D. The action is pretty decent, it's something I'll have to really think about as it was a bit lighter than I had expected compared to my regular practice unit. I'll have to really think if it's too far off or "good enough" for what I want to use it for. I couldn't quite tell on how easy/hard it was to be expressive with it and get really quiet/soft sounds (unfortunately, the store had it mounted at the highest mount point and no loose power adapters where it could be moved away from the mount bracket so it was a bit of a challenge to play lol). Interesting, so not quite as much edit power as the 560, but still a lot of flexibility. A bit weird on the firmware - I'm not used to seeing firmware revisions changing when in house tools change but rather when a change (bug fix, new feature, etc.) has been applied to the firmware itself.

Hi all, First, this might be in the wrong topic and if it is I apologize - the only other one I saw that it might fit in didn't seem to have a lot of traffic in it. I'm looking at getting a secondary DP; something not terribly heavy to make it easy to move/take with me. Right now I've limited it down to Casio and one other brand. Now, I'm not gigging, and I'd prefer to have internal speakers. So to that end, in the Casio line I've limited it to the PX-560 or the new PX-S3000. Unfortunately, no where near me has both these models (actually the place I thought that would only had the PX-S1000 on display to try - which would be ok as the touch/speaker sound /etc should be pretty much the same as the 3000, but no 560). Both are around 25 lbs - which is perfect. Here are the pros as I can tell right now: PX-S3000 - newer sound chip - potentially higher quality instrument sound - keys less bouncy (assuming that the PX-560 uses the same key configuration as I remember on the CGP700 where it felt like the keys bounced on return) - newer (and longer) samples for the piano - Ability to configure using a larger device through Chordana Play - quieter keybed - ability to run on batteries - triple pedal doesn't require the furniture style bench. - sleek very clean design PX-560 - Slightly easier to control the keys closer to the keybed - larger on device control interface means one wouldn't have to use a separate device to manipulate it - Ability to load tones created by other people (not sure if the px-3000 can do something similar, but afaik it doesn't have that level of editing) - classic midi interface would allow me to use my midi->bluetooth adapter (I don't think the 3000 does midi over bluetooth, I thought that was just to stream music to the speakers) - MUCH easier access to the USB A port for use with a thumb drive Things I really don't know - To anyone who has used both, which one has better onboard speakers? I think they are both about the same wattage, but between the changed case and possibly different speakers themselves, I am not sure which has a cleaner sound to it. Are there any features of either the PX-560 (although may still be the flagship of this line is probably somewhat close to EOL) or the 3000 I need to considre that might push me more solidly into one camp or the other? Does the Chordana Play app work well? Does anyone know if there might be firmware updates for the 3000? I had seen some people talking about firmware versions, but it seems to be just what theirs came with instead of being able to update it which could make purchasing a bit hit or miss - might get an older firmware version or newer one when ordering. I'm leaning a bit more toward the 3000, but as there is only about a $300 difference between the two I just want to be sure that I'm not missing something important.

Yes, I meant the GP for whatever reason I was thinking about the model name of my piano and kinda butchered the two together (I have a CGP-700). That was an interesting article. It does make me wonder though on that why someone would buy the 500 as it seems the 400 is identical (aside from the cabinet) but for less money?

Hi all, I've been researching the Celviano line a bit lately - mostly out of curiosity as it's out of my price range. So there's the AP and the CG - what's really the difference between them (aside from a real price boost)? For a home player (non-pro, heck non-high level ) is the difference really worth it between the lines? If the CG is worth it, with the 3 lines - 300, 400 and 500 are they all better than the AP's or really different purpose? I know the question probably is kinda lame but my google foo has not been good at learning the differences and I live in the boonies and I don't have a dealer with that level gear even within an hour away.

I'll give it a go and try. I have a set of studio monitor speakers hooked up right now which have taken care of the immediate need, but I'd love to get the onboard ones to cooperate

Hi all, I purchased a CGP700 in late 2015 - when I first got it, the sound through the speakers/pedestal was pretty decent and could easily be turned up. Well, not terribly long after I got it, I started to use a headset for my practice / learning and almost never used the speakers - until a few days ago. Even if I crank the volume dial as far as it can go, the audio level doesn't seem to get near as loud as I remember it and the sound doesn't feel as "rich" if that makes any sense? It's not a huge issue most of the time since I usually practice / work on learning with my headset on, but it would be nice to be able to play without a headset on occasion - I'm just not sure what could be the issue or if there is some magic setting somewhere that I may have changed that is affecting the sound through the speakers. I did check to make sure the speakers and pedestal speakers were turned on in the settings. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I'd hate to have to send it in for service as it's my only piano to use at home.