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  1. Check out my posts if you really want to disassemble the PX-350. You may not need to do that though. I seem to recall that these keys have a funny way of sliding in and out of position, although these are mounted so as not to be removed unless you take it completely apart. Try gently moving the key forward and back and see if it will click back into place. there really shouldn't be enough play to do this easily, but it might have somehow moved forward a tiny bit and shifted out of position. You could also try shifting the entire keyboard up towards you so the top of the PX is facing you and watch what happens to the key positions. You might need to do that to get this key back in place. Otherwise, study my pictures and descriptions in the PX350 section of this forum. I have a lengthy, detailed (mind-blowing) description of how I took my PX350 apart to put new felt strips in my worn keybed. Still holding up to repeated playing. Hope this helps.
  2. So when all is said and done, does any of this make sense to you cellachris? To keep things simple-if what you want to record into Ableton is "midi" data-not audio-you will have to do what I do with my PX350, PX575 and probably your CDP130. You will have to manually program your midi transmit channel from within the CDP one track at a time. This will embed the that midi channel into your recording first-in other words, you can record using whatever midi transmit channel the CDP130 is set to transmit with-1 through 16. However you are not done-you will need to make sure that when you select a "tone" for recording on whatever midi channel you choose-that the CDP130 is sending the correct "program change" message and recording it into Ableton. How you check this on a MAC I'm not sure-if Snoize will show the actual midi data messages, that will work as I do in Midiox for the Windows platform. I think there is a setting in Ableton where you can also monitor the actual program change messages but I'd need to study Ableton some more to be sure about that.. And repeating Ted's tech notes-if all you need to do is make sure Ableton will play back the same sound you selected in the first place-all you need is the specific "program change" number sent out from the CDP130, and check that Ableton is recording the program change at the beginning of whatever track you record. Program change messages are simply made up of a 1 or 2 digit number that specify a particular "tone" Program change "one" for example will always specify a piano sound, based on the standard "GM" (general midi) codes used for various tones or sounds. You must also make sure that the CDP130 is capable of receiving the specific midi data messages you have recorded into Ableton. If the CDP is not designed to respond to program change messages (again I'd have to study the manual to know this) it will always pick the piano sound as a default. You can check this by picking a different "tone" than the one you have recorded, then playing back your recorded midi track. As you said, so far that seems to be what is happening. If it switches back to the tone you've recorded you're all set. if it doesn't even after you are sure the midi channel and program change numbers are embedded into you Ableton recorded track, then you know the CDP is not capable of receiving program changes-the manual should state this clearly somewhere, Ted may be able to help there. sorry for the long-winded reply, I started this mess, I'm just trying to end it gracefully. I know way too much about midi, more than a normal human being should need to know!
  3. Without seeing your software setup, I would think the midi control change message required to switch to the strings setting is not getting through or is not there at all. Can you install Midiox on your computer, run it while playing the CDP130, and check to see what "CC" control change message is being sent over midi to the computer, without looking at Ableton first? You may have to study Midiox a bit to understand what you are seeing and how to use it, but this will show you the actual midi data being sent from the CDP130 to your computer and to Ableton. Also remember that to record separate tracks with the CDP130 to Ableton or to any midi sequencer, without my knowing how the CDP does this, you need to change the midi transmit channel for each track. And i will have to look at the manual, but I'm not sure the CDP130 is multi-timbral-is it capable of receiving separate mid channel messages to create multitrack arrangements? If it isn't, it may always be set to transmit the same CC message for the one track. I will study the manual and see if I can help a bit more on this.
  4. I might be able to help, if you could be a little more specific. I am the crazy guy who tore apart his px350 to rebuild parts of the key assembly-it is not an easy task, but you may be able to repair this depending upon what exactly is happening.You will find my posted pictures in the PX350 section here. I believe you are describing the small weights that are attached to the ends of a metal arm structure, colored black in my px350. This is the fulcrum arm that provides some resistance to the key when played. There are small counterweights on the ends of these arms that provide the "weighted" feel of the keys. If these have fallen out, you could refasten these with a strong epoxy or maybe even "crazy glue" and you may be able to do this without dis-assembling the entire keyboard although I've not taken apart a px100. If the damage goes further than this, i agree a total keyboard assembly would probably need to be installed, a very big job and I wouldn't recommend it unless you have alot of experience with this type of thing. As far as a newer Casio, the least expensive I could find runs around $300,00 new. This was a PX200 I purchased for a student and it is a beautiful instrument, well made, gorgeous piano sounds and excellent weighted action. I'm sure a replacement key assembly would be pretty expensive and the installation if DIY would take quite a few hours even if you are experienced doing this type of work-the entire keyboard must be taken a apart to get the key assembly out as one piece, not fun. If you can sell the px100 for parts you might get some of your money back.
  5. This gets a little complicated, but you might be able to do this-download "Midiyoke" from Midiox's website. This allows you to route internal midi software connections any way you want. Why would you want to do this? Well, theoritically you can now connect Reason's "midi out" into "Midiox"'s midi input-and at least see what velocity settings are coming out of Reason, how it is responding to the PX5s. Sounds like Reason is interpreting a system channel message or sysex message in a way that causes it to change a channel message to the "soft" pedal setting, thus lowering the velocity response. And when you use the sustain pedal, it is being interpreted in Reason as again, some sort of velocity setting-maybe pushing it up to a fixed higher number. if you can get midiyoke and midiox connected to see Reason's output to midiox, you might get a clearer picture of what is happening. Just a guess, hope this helps.
  6. And yet music in our schools-where music can have a real impact on many people-is still considered a 2nd class citizen in the world of US music education. I know, I struggled to survive for 30 years in my school district, being laid off 3 times and lived to see my music program completely eliminated, only to be reinstated at a lower salary, which was a sacrifce I had to make or walk away and watch my 20 years already in the program I had built disappear. I taught special needs students, "mainstreamed" students and children from pre-k to 8th, as well as "at risk" students who I hope all benefited in some way to what I tried to give them. My drumming early on had been therapy for me so i agree completely on this-at least it prevented me from beating up the guitar players in my bands (only kidding)! This actually contributed to and was part of my educational philosophy going in that i could reach kids that might not be able to fit into the usual educational "mold", (and not beating up guitar players ) I had already taught privately and been playing in jazz groups professionally before i could drive a car-my drum teacher had to drive me to gigs and i loved it plus it hellped bring money to my family-now try to find a place around my area where there is live music outside colleges and NYC-most places I played as a kid are long gone. This was a prelude to my baptism by fire in the life of an American school music director. and surprisingly....although I hope this has changed recently....many of the teaching techniques I had to use were European-Kodaly, Orff....American music education models were still unfortunately woefully not up to the task of what I needed to do to survive in a typical music classroom environment-I thank my very hard working professors for giving me the tools I would need to teach huge classes every day-I had a typical load of 300+ students per week-I taught all grade levels, chorus, band, directed all shows and plays, graduations, town music activities with the sometime assistant of the school's gym teacher thank you Phil wherever you are (another program that was quick to go on the chopping bllock). This was fairly typical for a music teacher in the US at the time, and I was considered "part-time' and paid accordingly! Yes I ended up being very worn out. My replacement quit after a year, which is understandable, although I left every support mechanism I could-lesson plans, guides for my classes and shows I had directed over the years but.... Until our educational system understands the value of music as you have so eloquently stated, I fear that not much will change, although there are certainly some school systems that are more supporitive and i think many of the recent media sources are bringing an awareness that did not exist until fairly recently-my new location in Pennsylvania has a school system with an outstanding music program, very well supported with many opportunities for vocal/instrumental performance, dramtic performances and developing musical/performance skills. Which sadly, surprised me since many of the schools in my original area could barely support any music programs at all. And now politically it seems it will be even worse, sigh! Very fine posting, thanks for putting it out.
  7. Brad is right. The results showing in Midiox are showing the results of the initial impact of the key, which is velocity, not key pressure. I do not think these Casios respond to key pressure or what is also called aftertouch. Midiox will be showing significant measurements for velocity-which based upon equal velocity from your playing-should be showing reasonably similar numbers across the key range, in all octaves, regardless of whether you are playing black or white keys, and there should be no big variation for an individual key. This is what my results are showing-surprisingly consistent and again, good job Casio. Yes, your best test would be to play another PX360 and decide for yourself. i sure hope you did not buy a display model-which could account for this discrepancy. Most people fooling around in a store display model might favor playing the white keys-and there would be more wear on the felt strips as a consequence. This would then require less velocity from the white keys than the black for similar results! This may seem a long shot, but it is possible and is just my guess. Or, the factory installer did not put the right felt strips on one or the other key assembly under the keys, and this is creating the different responses. Try pushing down firmly on a section of the black keys for as few seconds (compressing the internal felt strip a bit) and then measure the key velocity with Midiox, or by ear and see if you can detect a change. If so, this means the black key felt strips are not as worn as the white, or there is some defect in the way the white key strips were placed. It's possible although I've never played a Casio with this defect. not making any accusations, but I'm thinking this may have been a previously played floor model. .Now if only Sherlock Holmes were here to help us..............Art in the blood takes the strangest forms.
  8. I have another idea on what is wrong here. The black and white key assemblies each have their own felt bumper strips, which technically should be the same-should allow for the same amount of key-throw and shock resistance when the key travels up and down (actually the metal fulcrum arm corresponding to each key hits up and down on 2 separate felt strips above and below the fulcrum arm). If somehow the strips installed under the black keys are not identical to the white key strips, or if these strips have premature wear or defective installation, this could be the problem. You would not have the same degree of "throw"-the same momentum for all the keys. And you would not get the same physical pressure and response when the key hits the rubber sensors under the keys. Whatever it is, it should not be and needs to be corrected, IMO. If you can connect your px360 to a computer running Midiox, open the midi input window, play some keys and look at the "data 2" column. You should get pretty much identical values from the black keys to adjacent white keys. To Casio's credit-I found the velocity values very consistent across all octaves-this shows good engineering design and is certainly not always the results I see with digital pianos.
  9. OK, here is what I have observed with Midiox connected to the px350 not the 360 which I do not own. Hitting notes in various octaves I can get a range (in hex) of roughly 14 with the softest pianissimo to the 70 range at fortissimo. This is with a touch sensitivity setting of 3, the hardest setting for the px350 key response. Midiox's midi monitor shows velocity settings in the column labelled "data 2" as far as I can see. Significantly, I see no variation in these settings from black to white keys, and I thought this would be true since there is no audible difference, even with my best AKG monitor headphones. So there is a possibility of a defect in this particular px360, I'm not sure if the internal mechanism is the same as the 350. I'd like to think with a newer model than mine that it would be either identical or possibly improved in some way. Hope this helps you decide what needs to be done. I would judge such a discrepancy to be unacceptable, except for jazz or playing chopsticks (only kidding)!
  10. Shouldn't be. I play a px575 (same as px410) and the older px350 and I notice no difference in velocity response with either. Keys seem pretty dynamically balanced across all octaves white and black. Unless Casio changed the key mechanism from the 350 to 360, there should be no difference. I have not checked the channel messages with Midiox with my px350, never felt a need to but I can hear no audible differences with mine. I'll measure velocity response with Midiox and post back.
  11. You will have to disassemble it from the bottom first, look for hidden screws if you can't get it apart easily. Now look for physically obvious problems. Might be a cable connector that's popped loose. Or as cyberyogi said, a crack in a circuit board. You probably should use a good magnifying lens since even a tiny crack or broken solder joint could be the culprit and will be hard to spot with the naked eye. If you had it connected to your power supply when it dropped, check the solder joints at the power jack first, this would be my first suspect. Let us know how you progress.
  12. Good for playing swing music. Can also be used for cleaning your windows with the optional power winch attachment. And you are free to dance around the stage with the optional neck bracket, making yer setup completely mobile. yours truly, Alice in Chains and Lon Chaney
  13. Wow, glad I saw this-I've done alot of repairs including many soldering projects. Word to the wise-sloppy soldering isn't your friend, and apparently can come out of the factory like this! One tiny solder bridge created all this havoc, and fortunately didn't short this hard to replace SMT chip. Never assume everything has been put together properly! I have repaired several keyboards simply by opening them, and refitting a loose cable or connector. It happens.
  14. Which keyboard model is this? Are you using the auto-accompaniment feature or no? Fill us in with a few more details and there will be help forthcoming here.
  15. Nice work Ted-I have been too busy watching James May play his Casio on Top Gear-see my other posting in the classic Casio posts!