lodger

Hi,all- I was recently working with some fm synthesis and it spurred a few questions about how the pd synthesis in the cz synths correspond to that. In particular, With a given patch, you have 2 oscillators but I notice that for each, you can have 2 waveforms on the same osc. for each of the oscillators, is it summing the two waves (i.e mixing them together like if you had a square and a triangle from 2 vco's) or is it using the second to modulate the first...or are they both phase distorting a sine wave? I've had my cz for a year, but always just assumed it was sort of a summing approach.

It would be interesting to explore collaboration sometime in the future for these sessions. Either that or set a root key so that all the songs can fit together on compilation

I didn't get a chance to edit etc. de facto I guess that was my entry

cool- i really like that synth tone...if you'd strip down the reverb on the drums a bit, it would remind me of something off of Gary Numan's pleasure principal (such as the song M.E.)

the first couple of seconds reminded me of my chere amor by Stevie wonder. I like the idea you followed out there and the instrumentation. my only suggestion might be enhancing your drum parts as they dont quite seem to fit with the landscape of the track. I have a kp 3 that i use for processing and am a pretty big fan. let me know if you have any questions.

now that my ears are fresh, i'm starting to take another listen. 1) tweaking some of the phrases- i'd like there to be a stronger sense of melody in the opening riff...at least in the 3-4 bar of the prase. imo the accompanyment is good, but the question of what the takeaway part that would leave people humming isnt the clearest - or at least a standout chorus, etc 2) arrangement is everything- i'd like there to be some changeups with voicing, making the track hit in 2-3 waves more definitively. 3) There's somethign that feels too disorienting about the track- i'd like to find more ways of helping to tie this together. starting to collect some reference works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBKmaZxq98k lets see how this goes

Also if you're not sure go in favor of versatility

It depends on what you want to do and what sounds you want to make. The best move with me to choose the sounds that would complement everything else nicely. Once you decide this see if he can get it done with this with as few as possible

hey all i just thought I'd try something new with a track i'm working on and talk though the process of developing a track once there is a rough sketch of things. For me, composing digitally is a lot more like sculpture that performance. I'm still using sounds and theory, but 1) its not nececarily a "real time" dynamic proces as much as blocking in rough ideas and composing subtractively. Usually i'll take a day, slop all the ideas together that i can and will refine the rest at a later date. I am also hoping that this helps people see a bit of the process of making music- by seeing the production process warts and all, it helps frame how art is formed and shatters the illusion that artwork magically happens. for this project, I am posting before it is done and i'm going to be talking through the logic of enhancing my arrangement in a section by section basis, ultimately (hopefully) putting together a track that has solid arrangement, focus, and quality. Entry 1: the plop I made this track during some experimentation yesterday. its made using casio pt-1, casio mt-100, and yamaha pss-460 (all <$5 sound sources). I'm composing in reason and have sliced up and modified a few drum loops and have also used a pitch shifter to adjust some drum sounds. let me know what you think so far and some initial reactions. I'll be changing and adapting these, so this will be a nice chance to build your arrangement skills. lodger- build it up WIP.mp3

no need to be nervious, man! really nice job and the instrumentations sounds great together. everything fit the arrangement extremely well

not sure about a moog style synth, i could see them do pcm synthesis with filters though. I imagine a dream merger would be casio and E-mu...concider the possibilities

i could imagine this being from an 80's sega master system game or anime series introduction from that era #awesome

nice changeup- the mellotron sound is a much better fit good job!

fun stuff- I really like the melodies that came out of it. i do have a few suggestions regarding instrumentation: 1) when everything is large sounding, nothing is. there are a lot of massive sounds and i think that may have overpowered the subtlety that jazzy music tends to favor.if you want to use big sounds as a lead or to add percussive value, i'd encourage you to have more modest elements in the mix. remember: without contrast, there is no distinction and its hard to focus on one particular things 2) you had a lot of different instruments fighting for attention dead center- some panning at least left center right would help keep everything easier to focus on 3) reverb is cool, but too much defeats the illusion of being in a sonic space and makes it sound like its a recording of an orchestra in a well. DIaling this back and reducing the duration of the reverb should help give your instruments much more character and nuance. I enjoyed listening to this- its always good to hear people cut loose and improv

I'm glad you enjoyed! I'm working on applying a bunch of tutorials I just watched and feel really pleased with how its helped my mix.