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  1. I'm also in the search for a Vox Continental sound and, the closest I've got with my CTK7200 is, on the standard organ bank, the patch number 11 (Elec. Organ 3). I've also tried to mix it with other more aggressive organ patches, as the Pure Organ (patch number 39 on the drawbar bank), and the result is just OK. I wonder when will Casio engineers and marketers realize that a Vox Continental simulation, exactly as the current Hammond B3 one for the CTKs, would be a top seller for sure, being also probably the way to make the kind of people who spent 1500 € on a keyboard to take Casio's name seriously. If creating the full simulator with the original 4 Vox drawbars may require some engineering time, I don't think that sampling a basic one (for example just a patch with the Doors Light My Fire sound) for the actual line of CTKs could be that difficult, and would be a great present for us all. ;-)
  2. I can't thank you enough for this, I would really love to have the possibility to make my beloved CTK7200 sound like an old Conti, and if a new CTK would be released with that sound (I can even dream of it having the four original Vox drawbars) I'll be buying it at once (on today's market there's no Vox Continental emulation in the under 1500 USD prize tag). Again, many thanks.
  3. Good idea! Hope you enjoy it. PS. And, if somebody could be so gentle to ask Casio's developers for a Vox Continental sound on the CTK-7200 that would be great.
  4. Al final no he podido hacer gran cosa para sacar el Vox Continental, estoy probando a hacer sonar dos órganos a la vez con la función layer, especialmente el Elec. Organ 3 (banco de órganos número 11) y el Pure Organ (banco drawbar número 39), pero no creo que vaya a conseguir demasiado... Me parece increíble que de fábrica no haya algún sonido que lo replique directamente, porque tampoco es algo tan complicado de conseguir.
  5. I love my CTK7200 because of the drawbar organ sliders for the Hammond simulation. To me that's the point which makes the difference. If it also had 4 more sliders for a Vox Continental simulation that would be just perfect...
  6. This is a review I wrote recently for a spanish forum (which is not indexed by Google and so on unavailable for most people). I think it may be of use for potential buyers of a medium range keyboard so I'm including it here even when it's written in spanish and this is an english forum just because posting it here will make it widely available (Google does index this forum). Anyway, if you don't speak spanish and still want to read it, you can use this automatic translation tool. Hasta hace bien poco Casio hacía teclados que eran prácticamente de juguete (salvo alguna honrosa excepción en forma de sintetizador), y las gamas medias eran monopolizadas por Yamaha. Pues resulta que la cosa ha cambiado, Casio ahora fabrica sintetizadores con bastante buena pinta, pianos electrónicos (de esos que usan los estudiantes de conservatorio) que al parecer son magníficos, y han tomado al asalto las gamas medias de teclados portátiles. Yamaha tiene que andarse con ojo para que sus gamas medias (PSR-E) no sean mejores que sus gamas altas (Tyros) para no hacerse la competencia a si mismos, pero como Casio no tiene nada superior en teclados portátiles (el WK7600 es exactamente igual que el CTK7200 pero con una octava más), pues resulta que no tienen que autolimitarse y han sacado una gama media que es acojonante. He probado los Yamaha PSR-E 443 (320 € en Thomann), Casio CTK 7200 (345 € en Thomann), un Roland BK3 (491 € en Thomann) y un Korg PA50SD (666 € en Thomann). El Yamaha suena razonablemente bien, estando muy orientado hacia el aprendizaje, el Roland es de una calidad similar al Yamaha (a pesar del muy excesivo precio) y tiene como pega que la luz parpadeante del tempo es un incordio (y aunque intenté apagarla no pude). El Korg tiene unos sonidos de una calidad de la ostia (entre ellos un Vox Continental y varios Hammonds), pero es demasiado complejo para mi gusto, tiene muchísimas opciones de configuración y el precio se me escapa, sobre todo si comparamos la relación calidad precio con el Casio. El Casio CTK-7200 tiene unos sonidos que en mi opinión están mucho más cerca de los Korg que de los Yamaha o de los Roland, tiene varios bancos de sonido (piano, cuerdas, guitarras, synth, etc) de los que dos son para órganos, uno el típico banco variado de órganos con 53 órganos de todo tipo siendo el otro un banco exclusivo para emulación de drawbar organs, es decir emulación de órganos tipo Hammond B3, con 50 presets y la posibilidad de pasar de los presets y configurar a tu gusto 9 barras deslizadoras que emulan un Hammond B3 de verdad, con o sin altavoz Leslie y con o sin dos tipos diferentes de percusión, lo que te permite clavar infinidad de tonos clásicos de órgano, como Booker T & The MGs, Jimmy Smith, Procol Harum, etcétera. Decir que entre los primeros hay uno que recuerda un poco al Vox Continental (el 11: Elec. Organ 3), en cuanto pueda me pondré a ver si lo edito y consigo sacarle un parecido aun mayor, y que el segundo bloque es exactamente eso, una emulación directa de un Hammond B3, lo cual hasta ahora era lo nunca visto en un teclado de este precio. Todos los sonidos son (moderadamente) editables, con una docena de parámetros o así por cada sonido (y las 9 barras del Hammond) y la posibilidad de meterle 100 tipos de efecto DSP diferentes (vibrato, tremolo, distorsion, chorus, etc). También viene con una mesa de mezclas multipista (que puede grabar y mezclar sonido real, por ejemplo desde un micrófono) y un montón de ritmos de acompañamientos, que tienen buena fama pero que ni he probado porque no me interesa esa función. Las teclas son de bastante buena calidad, grandes como un piano, pero hay que admitir que son algo ruidosas, a veces parece como si rozasen ligeramente unas con otras, pero tienes que estar muy pendiente para percibirlo. Otra pega es que no tiene conectividad MIDI (pero tiene entrada SD y USB). Total, que me he comprado el Casio CTK-7200 en el Unión Musical de la Calle Arenal (Madrid) por 418 € (si, 73 € más caro que en Thomann y a la vez 150 € más barato que en el Corte Inglés, o sea, de Thomann a El Corte Inglés pasa de 345 a 565 euros) y estoy más contento que unas pascuas. Solo echo en falta un sonido Vox Continental directamente sampleado de uno auténtico (y un Farfisa también molaría mucho), pero vaya, echándole algo de imaginación el Elec. Organ 3 me hace el apaño por ahora y aun no me he puesto a editarlo (mayormente porque me pase dos horas el sábado tocando el I'm A Believer de los Monkees). Asi pues, recomiendo efusivamente a cualquiera que esté planteándose el comprar un teclado de gama media que le eche un vistazo a este nuevo modelo de Casio, porque la relación calidad/precio es realmente asombrosa y es en general muy superior a sus más directos competidores.
  7. +1 to that. I've also noted the two or three trebblier drawbars to be excesively noticeable, they have a permanent character which sounds like mixed a bit too high, too notorious. It's harder to explain than to notice it when listening. Anyway, I must say I'm really happy with my CTK7200 (I only miss a true Vox Continental emulation, that would make it perfect).
  8. Both things you talk about seems to work as intended. The newer CTK7200 also doesn't have that light (a feature to me, I hate excesively bright or blinking lights on keyboards) and one of the main differences from the CTK7000 to the CTK7200 is having full working drawbars (every position from 0 to 8 works as in an original Hammond B3).
  9. I've uploaded two new drawbar tones, based on the classic Booker T. & The MGs sound. They're available here.
  10. Version 1

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    Good morning. Here are two drawbar organ tones for the Casio CTK-7200 keyboard: 1) Booker T: It's a 888630000 with 2nd percussion organ, as used by Booker T & The MGs in many of their recordings. 2) Booker T GO: It's a 788700000 with no percussion organ, as used by Booker T & The MGs in their classic Green Onions tune. Enjoy!
  11. Good nights. I would like to make a suggestion for Casio product developers, and it's to create a basic keyboard aimed to the kind of people who just wants to play and doesn't need a multi track recorder or rythms at all. That keyboard should be centered on the quality of sounds without needing to have 200 sounds, I mean that with two dozens or so you could do really well (if they're well choosen), and not having features as the rythms or multi track recorder would probably make it cheaper to build. If it were designed retro style, maybe even with real wood (or at least a looking like wood finish) with powerful integrated speakers (20>X>10 W RMS) and with a 5 octaves manual with two sets of drawbars, one like the Hammond B3 from the current CTK7200 series and the other a newly developed one based on (or sampled from) the legendary Vox Continental. Put this together and include some of the sounds of the CTK series like the piano, harpsichord, a couple more organs (a Farfisa, one sounding like Deep Purple's Wring that neck organ, one for church, one for gospel...), strings, brass and a synth and you'll have a winner (you could even reverse the black and white keys colour as in the original Continental, to have a damm sexy winner): Have you, Casio marketers, noticed that actually there's no under 1000 € keyboard offering Vox Continental sounds? That's the keyboard used by The Doors, The Animals, Iron Butterfly, The Monkees and several other classic bands from the sixties and seventies. Korg (the owners of Vox) have their PA50SD which costs around 700 € in Spain and has one Vox Continental sound (called Vox Legend) and that's just ONE sound. For true Continental sounds with the 4 original Vox drawbars you gotta go to Nord and spend a minimum of 1600 €! With the Hammond drawbars you can cover Booker T & the MGs, Jimmy Smith, Procol Harum's Whiter shade of pale, or Gainsbourg's Je t'aime among many other classics (by the way I wonder why there's no preset for that so sought after sounds on the CTK7200 when it could be so easy to have those preconfigured), but you're missing a lot. If Casio could do the same they did for the Hammond like drawbar organ on the CTK7200 for the Vox Continental they will kick Yamaha, Roland and several others out of the under 1000 € market and make history on business industry, Casio will monopolize that classic sixties sounds and be the only one option to choose when looking after it. Just an idea.
  12. I'm sorry I can't help you with your problem, I only use my CTK7200 for direct playing. Anyway, I would suggest this thread to be moved to the proper section, so when answered could be of use for other users.
  13. By the way... is it possible to do something like this and convert the tones (I mean the sounds) from a Korg (let's say a Korg PA50SD) to a Casio CTK7200? I would really love to have something like the Korg tone called Vox Legends in my Casio.
  14. Well, after a little research I think I can answer that myself. Percussion is an addon to some drawbar organs which charges only when you full release the keys, meaning that if you play too fast without fully releasing the first key before pressing the second one, only the first key will sound with percussion because the effect won't get armed again. Anyway, this can be edited on the tone editor at the "perc. decay" setting. I've found that the drawbar organ emulation is just it, an emulation. It tries to fully replicate the way one of this organs, like a Hammond B3, actually works, and it offers a lot of fun to try all of the available combinations of the 9 harmonic sliders. Anyhow, I'm starting to find the two levers at the top right a bit too notorious, specially when playing on the treble side of the keyboard, when those two are fully down they seem to sound a bit over the mix, like if those 2 harmonics were mixed particularily high in volume. Could be disgusting some times. Anyway, I've found that in the regular organ bank of tones (not the drawbar organ, I refer to the standard organs) there are a lot of great tones ready to be used (and way easier to be used than the drawbar ones). PS. I've found that the 11 tone (Elec. Organ 3) on the standard organ bank sounds a bit like the Vox Continental, probably it could be tweaked to resemble one of those ancient transistor organs. I hope Casio could sample a real Vox Continental and a real Farfisa for their next CTK series keyboard...
  15. Good evening. I've recently purchased a new Casio CTK7200 and I would like to know how to solve a small difficultie I'm finding with the drawbar organs: How does the percussion work? I mean if it does only apply when I'm hitting one key and no other key is pressed or what? Also, is there a way to make that hammering trebbles always on no matter how many keys are pressed? Best regards. PS. Any suggestion about good patches for playing The Doors (Vox Continental sounds) would be also welcomed.
  16. Yes' it has been perfectly fixed now. Many thanks for your support.
  17. There's a problem with the new downloads section since it's only available for registered users, people unsigned on the forum doesn't even see that section, while they still can see the two other sections for Pivia and XW synths (you can check this problem just by logging out and then trying to reach it).
  18. Crazydubwise, Gerard & Silvano Silva, it would be great if you could upload your files to the new CTK / WK downloads section.
  19. I've just one suggestion for the CTK series wish list: - Vox Continental tone. I've bought a CTK-7200 instead of the Yamaha equivalent just for the great Hammond organ drawbar tone, but I would really love to have a good quality Vox Continental tone be able to play songs by The Doors, The Monkees, and several other sixties bands without having to use somebody's patch, that sound should be available on every keyboard by default, specially one sounding like the organ at "Light My Fire". Furthermore, if it could have available (and separated from those on the Hammond) the 4 original Vox drawbars as with the Hammond in the CTK7200, that would be really amazing. I really can't believe how the 7200/7600 can have 820 tones but not the classic Vox Continental tone...
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