jimmiew Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 So i recently bought a sustain pedal and I've heard these can be a bit finicky with polarity and such but I'm having trouble switching the polarity. I've tried plugging it in before turning the keyboard on and after turning the keyboard on but both ways it is inverted, how can I fix this within the keyboard? I dug through the manual (it says theres info on E-65 but there isn't anything of this nature) and tried every menu I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmiew Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 The pedal in question is a Yamaha FC-5 if that makes any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ED- Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Unfortunately I went throught a similar confusion when I first got a pedal for a Casio. (Was a CTK-7000 but its the same with the XW-P1)Is seems that (naughty) Casio have used a proprietary pedal system so you have to get one of their pedals (SP-20)No other pedal will work even if it has a polarity switch ...Unless I missed something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Not So. I use an M-Audio SP2 with my Casio XW-P1 just fine.The thing is, that Casio uses a normally open switch while Yamaha uses a normally closed one.There is no provision on the keyboard to reverse polarity.The M-Audio, however, like all universal pedals allows you to reverse polarity with a small switch on the bottom of the pedal.Check your Yamaha for such a switch but I don't believe they offer them.Otherwise you'll have to buy a new pedal. Again the XW-P1 has no provision for reversing pedal polarity in software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ED- Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Ah well then the XW is different from the CTK then.The CTK definitely needs the Casio SP-20 pedal because I tried one with a polarity switch and it didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmiew Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 No polarity switch, however, I've heard its possible to do a little minor surgery to change the polarity of a pedal. Anyone know much about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 *edit* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ED- Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 If you don't want to hack your pedal, you could make an extension cable with a female and male plug and just cross the wires between the two. So you just use the extension when you want the output reversed.(The extension cable can be very short of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 You can't simply swap the wires on the cable. It's a series loop circuit with a normally closed switch at one end and a 1/4" phone jack at the other.I have heard that you can open up a Yamaha pedal and reverse the polarity pretty easily though.I'd assume that it's a multi pole switch and you'd simply have to swap one wire to an unused terminal.Or just buy an M-Audio SP-2 and be done with it. They're built like a brick, they have a reversible switch already and Amazon sells them dirt cheap.Right now they have them for $20. If you shop around I've seen them on sale for $14.http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-US65010-Sustain-Pedal-Keyboards/dp/B00063678K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359396610&sr=8-1&keywords=m-audio+sp-2Again, simply reversing wires will accomplish bupkiss!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 bupkiss?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 bupkiss?!?Yiddish...I can swear fluently in 4 languages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Here's some images to illustrate my point.On the yamaha pedal the common and the A terminals are connected.To modify it for the Casio you'd connect the common and switch the wire from the A to the B terminal.On a switchable polarity switch there would be a second switch switching between A and B terminals internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarkr Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Sooooo... how about other recommended pedals? Sometimes I hook up my FC-5 and the sustain is on... or it triggers a note hold so the last note played is on. If the polarities are opposite, does this mean that I can't use the same pedal for the Casio and Roland? Is the Casio SP-3R OK to use? Thinking of ordering one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Ah well then the XW is different from the CTK then.The CTK definitely needs the Casio SP-20 pedal because I tried one with a polarity switch and it didn't work. No not true. XW's, CTK models and WK models are all identical in this regard.As for other pedals, we have two:Casio SP-20Casio SP-3RPedals from Kurzweil and Korg also work, Roland and Yamaha will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanopad Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 i had the same problem with the Yamaha foot pedal, and i solved it by opening the pedal, and reversing the contact blade inside the switch, so that instead of the blade pressing on it and making it closed, it stayed away from it, and turned it into an open switch. I wouldn't recomend this procedure, since it's risky, and you can damage the plastic housing that holds the contact blade and the rest of the switch together, so be warned.But in case you wanna try this before buying another pedal, i can open it up again, and take some pictures of it later today (when i get home). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar_not Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Polarity isn't the answer. You need a normally open switch pedal (very common) for the XW. The normally closed pedals won't work no matter if you switch polarity or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Pedals from Casio, Korg, Kurzweil and M-Audio all work with the XW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XW-Addict Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Is an Apextone pedal also good with the XW they say it supports Casio but I want to be sure it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Is an Apextone pedal also good with the XW they say it supports Casio but I want to be sure it is. Can you post the model number and/or link to the pedal you are looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XW-Addict Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Can you post the model number and/or link to the pedal you are looking at?Its the Apextone AP PD 01 Sustainpedal and Apextone AP PD 02 Sustainpedal blok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 The PD-01 looks very much like the On-Stage pedal... and I suspect it is the same.. just a generic pedal that distributors can slap their name on. I don't see it on the store you linked to, but I would look for the M-Audio SP-2... it should be the same price as the Apextone or even cheaper....I can't speak to the AP PD 02.. never seen a model like that. Goof thing is it's inexpensive.. if you hate it, you can always just use it as a backup pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I just purchased something called an "Auray" model FP-P1D that has a polarity switch and works with the XW-P1 no problem. It uses a standard mono 1/4 inch plug. Found it on e*** for around 15.00 including shipping. Seems nicely made, has a steel piano pedal like most other brands, a very rigid metal cover and plastic base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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