Default Tempo for Rhythms - Hex-Layer Sliders

[rogerpogger]

Hi,

I’d like to say thank you for the great information shared in this forum.

 

There is one thing for which I couldn’t find an answer: is there a way, when a rhythm is selected,  to automatically set the default (recommended) tempo for that rhythm?

 

It seems that the rhythms you select use the tempo that is already set (for example by a previous rhythm) and the only way to set the recommended tempo for the new chosen rhythm, is to use the one-touch function or press both the tempo buttons, meaning that, to have a rhythm play at its recommended tempo, one have to change the tempo manually every single time a rhythm is chosen (unless one wants to set a specific tempo and have all the rhythms play at that tempo).

 

There is one more thing that I’d want to know: the use of the sliders to control hex layer tones.

 

When a new tone is selected, it’s necessary to move the sliders to hear all the parts of the hex layer. If the sliders remain in the same position as the previous tone (or all up/down) only some of the parts are heard.

 

Is there a way to put the sliders in a “default” position (e.g. all up) on which it’s possible to hear the full hex layer tone for all tones, wihout having to move the sliders for each and every tone selected to hear all the parts?

 

Thank you

[horse]

There might be other ways, but I think you can save a rhythm and tempo (plus selected tones etc) in a 'registration' - think of it as a snapshot of what settings you have called up.

 

If you edit a hex layer you can save it with any combination of default volume levels - so edit it, turn all the layers up to their max, then save as a user tone.

 

Hope this helps.

[Silvano Silva]

6 hours ago, horse said:

There might be other ways, but I think you can save a rhythm and tempo (plus selected tones etc) in a 'registration' - think of it as a snapshot of what settings you have called up.

 

If you edit a hex layer you can save it with any combination of default volume levels - so edit it, turn all the layers up to their max, then save as a user tone.

 

Hope this helps.

Record time by registration you lose the freeze adding feature.
And it has to decorate where you put the beats in the registration.
Only update to solve this problem.

[AlenK]

14 hours ago, rogerpogger said:

 

 

There is one more thing that I’d want to know: the use of the sliders to control hex layer tones.

 

When a new tone is selected, it’s necessary to move the sliders to hear all the parts of the hex layer. If the sliders remain in the same position as the previous tone (or all up/down) only some of the parts are heard.

 

Is there a way to put the sliders in a “default” position (e.g. all up) on which it’s possible to hear the full hex layer tone for all tones, wihout having to move the sliders for each and every tone selected to hear all the parts?

 

Thank you

 

If that's the way the sliders actually work on the MZ-X500 then something is wrong. I don't have an MZ-X500 but I can describe how the sliders work on an XW-P1, which also has a Hex Layer mode (although not nearly as flexible!). When you select a Hex Layer tone on the XW-P1 you hear all the layers at whatever relative volume levels are programmed for them in the tone. If you then move a slider the relative volume of the corresponding layer will instantly change to match the current position of the slider. I would be very surprised if the sliders on the MZ-X500 work differently.  

[Brad Saucier]

Not all hex layer tones are designed to use every layer.  What you hear at default is the way it is intended to be heard and in some cases, sliders are intended to be used to bring in additional layers as you play. 

[AlenK]

Good points. That would explain why the the OP said "it’s necessary to move the sliders to hear all the parts of the hex layer."  

 

It's easy to forget that some Hex Layer tones are designed to be "played" live with the sliders.

 

However, given the "instant change" nature of the operation of the sliders, in order to bring in a silent layer properly the relevant slider should be put to zero before playing any notes. Hence, you need to know which ones are intended to be faded in. It would nice if the touchscreen told you information like that.

 

It would also be nice if the sliders had an alternate mode of operation where the parameter (in this case the volume level of a layer) doesn't change until the slider value goes through it. Many modern synthesizer with pots (as opposed to encoders) allow the user to select which mode of operation they prefer. That might address the OP's difficulty. 

[rogerpogger]

Thank you very much for your explanation of the use of hex layer tones.

 

As all of you are very helpful, as always, I’d like to bring to the forefront the question about the tempo for rhythms.

 

It’s very strange that the only option to play rhythms at their intended tempo is to set that tempo manually (with one-touch funcion or tempo buttons).
I understand that one can create a registration in which to save tempo, tones, etc.., the fact is that the system gives you no option to have the default tempo recalled automatically when you select a rhythm. This thing would be very useful when, for example, auditioning multiple rhythms; it’s quite unpractical to set the tempo to its default for every single rhythm or to create a registration for it.

[rogerpogger]

To elaborate on the post above: the one-touch function should be a on/off feature so as to give the possibility to decide if and how to apply the one-touch items (tempo, effects etc...) to the chosen rhythms without the need to press the button with each rhythm.

 

side note on the fingering modes:  the casio chord mode permits to use one-finger chords (it's been created to make it easy to play chords); is it normal that the other fingering modes, e.g. fingered 1 accept, together with the standard form, one-finger chords too? One would expect that fingered 1, that should be the standard, default mode, would accept only standard chord forms and not one-finger chords. This thing can create problems if, for example, one wants to play a Cm chord but press the C key before the other two keys keys, resulting in the keyboard playng a C chord.

 

[Tson]

Regarding sliders and levels, do the sliders utilize "catch" (slider has to pass through preset value to become active) or "jump" (slider value immediately jumps to slider position when it is moved)?  It would be nice if this were a setting option for each Tone that uses sliders.