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LK-265 vs LK-280 Pros Cons and the Chordana Play App

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I am looking to pick up a new lighted keyboard to help my niece learn how to play keyboard, and figure I would purchase one for myself. I originally picked up an LK-135 for this Xmas as an impulse buy, but then started researching the higher end models and am just plain confused as to which to upgrade to. I would appreciate the ability to learn with the Chordana Play App, as the advertisement states, "Just download your favorite MIDI files, connect your device's headphone output to the LK-265's audio input, and explore an endless library of music." (I have 80GB of my own store bought music, woohoo!) But if the LK-280 is the flagship model in this lineup, how come it does not mention any integration with the Chordana Play app? Will it work at all with it? Is the app even necessary to port my own songs over to learn on the lighted keys? The Chordana Play app just makes it look easy to teach my niece with the plug and play functionality without having to explain to a 3 yr old  (And my sister who isn't technical at all) how to hack a song into a Midi file on Windows 10 and insert an SD card. I also really like that the 280 records if I ever want to make an attempt at being the next Trent Reznor with my own completed songs which the 265 does not seem to support.

 

Basically if the 280 works with the app it would make it well worth the upgrade but there is no resources on anyone doing this. If anyone has any experience with these combinations, please let us know your experience. 

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A very difficult decision, indeed !  The iTunes and GooglePlay sites make the following statement about ChrodanaPlay compatibility:

 

" Compatible with LK-265, CTK-2500, CTK-2550, and CTK-3500 keyboard models. "

 

Obviously, the LK-280 is not on this list.  That is very unfortunate, as the LK-280 includes some of the more advanced convenience features of the CTK/WK workstation models, and since you have expressed interest in the LK-280, I would recommend one of the ChordanaPlay compatible CTK models, except that they lack the key-lighting feature, which could be a fortunate learning incentive to a 3 year old, of the LK-265.

 

It is possible to convert Standard MIDI FIles (SMF), from various sources (including the internet) to be compatible with the standard "Learning" features of any of the Casio CTK/WK/LK models, but they would lack the more sophisticated features of ChordanaPlay.  ChorddanaPlay is a system unto itself.  Once you understand the process, the aforementioned conversion is really rather simple for a power user, but is definitely not for the uninitiated.  Here is a YouTube video clip showing the conversion process.  The clip shows the LK-280, but the process will work for any CTK/WK/LK model with "Learning" features, but with key-lighting only for the LK models.

 

Good luck with your decision !

 

 

 

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I am thinking about the exact same thing as Bdbarb. I'm looking to buy a keyboard for myself as a beginner, and my 5yo daughter. The Cordiana play app seems great especially for myself, and lighted keys for my daughter. But how come the LK265 doesn't record? I'd love the LK280 with the Cordiana comptability. 

 

Does anyone know if the teaching ability of the keyboard itself (3-step system?) is the same in these two devices?

 

Thanks!!

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I can think of two possible reasons that the LK-265 does not record.  First, the Chordana system is a very, very basic learning system, so the assumption could be that anyone at that basic of a level would probably not be interested in something as sophisticated as recording, so (second reason) why inflate the price with a feature that would most likely never be used.

 

As to your second question, while the LK-265 shares some of the basic learning features of the non-Chordana compatible (LK-280, etc) units, it does lack some of their more important learning features - primarily the ability to play MIDI files that have been downloaded from the internet and fairly easily converted into "learning" files.  If this were a consideration strictly for a 5 year old, then I would say that the LK-265 might have SOME merit, but with its limitations, could still become out-grown fairly soon.  The main attraction of these units for younger learners seems to be the flashing keys, and any of the LK models have those, but now, when you throw in the consideration of an older or adult learner, that kind of tips the scale the other way.  There are no workarounds for what the LK-265 lacks, but there are workarounds for the Chordana system - professional teacher ($$$), online teaching systems ($$), locally purchased booklets on various learning systems ($), and in any case, even with Chordana, local support/supervision will be required.  While the LK-280 lacks some of the sophisticated features of the more advanced CTK/WK workstation models, it is still a very good keyboard, in its own right, and does share some of the important features of the more basic CTK/WK models, and does include some features that the very basic, entry level CTK/WK models lack.  I would expect the average LK-280 owner to find it useful well beyond that of the lower priced LK and CTK models.

 

 

 

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I went with both! Got the LK-265 for my niece and the LK-280 for myself. Bought the Windows program http://www.synthesiagame.com/ and have already started adding midi files off the internet for free. The Chordana play app should allow you to add midi files as well. Casio if you're listening, I would have purchases the Chordana Play app from you had it been made for Windows too.

 

Steps to use:

1. Download the contents in your computer and transfer to the memory of the smart device on which Chordana Play is downloaded.

2. Open Chordana Play > Midi Files. All the files should show up in Chordana Play App.

3. Start playing the songs via the app or transfer in your Keyboard (CTK-2500, CTK-3500)

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27 minutes ago, Bdbarb said:

I went with both! Got the LK-265 for my niece and the LK-280 for myself. Bought the Windows program http://www.synthesiagame.com/ and have already started adding midi files off the internet for free. The Chordana play app should allow you to add midi files as well. Casio if you're listening, I would have purchases the Chordana Play app from you had it been made for Windows too.

 

Steps to use:

1. Download the contents in your computer and transfer to the memory of the smart device on which Chordana Play is downloaded.

2. Open Chordana Play > Midi Files. All the files should show up in Chordana Play App.

3. Start playing the songs via the app or transfer in your Keyboard (CTK-2500, CTK-3500)

 

Are you saying that you can get the same/similar functionality with LK 280 & Synthesia? as in LK 265 & Chordana? I am primarily interested in lighted keys, importable midis and scrolling sheet music that stops at a note and waits for me to play the lighted key before progressing. Would you kindly make a youtube video and load it up? I would also like some Karaoke features to the Casio models like in Casio 300TV or Casio 94tv.

 

I know the casio LK 280 can play midi songs from the internet but synthesia requires us to purchase some of these songs? Shouldnt most of these songs be available for free in midi form? Just wondering. 
 

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Yes I'm saying that. And it stops for you to play the music or you can set it to keep going too. This information is readily available about how to use midi files and you can also find the instructions and video tutorials available on these companies websites. Yes you can add midi files for free on Synthesia, even in the trial, but it requires you to pay for license before you can play entire midi songs (trial version ends song early). It's only 29 bucks if you like it. Can't hurt to try it for free.

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