jimmiew Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I've had my XW-P1 for about a month now and love it but as most would admit, the user interface isn't always the friendliest and the computer interface leaves a lot to be imagined. Is there anything in the woodwork of a better computer interface? Something that looks more like a soft synth? This is the one thing I feel like Line 6 always gets right (sadly the tone usually isn't on that list in most of my experiences) and I feel like having a better layout to edit and create tones through your computer would put this synth on a whole new level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EDB Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Absolutely agree. The interface on the XW-P1 (and G1) is very customized. "Programming" can be cumbersome (yes, I know, there are people who have stayed up many nights getting used to it). An intuitive, user-friendly, and universally "expected" and equated synth functionality in the computer interface would be the bridge that brings the user much closer to what is going on inside the machine. It would cut down on alot of time. I love the XW-P1! But, it's slow going to do the usual synth-like operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmiew Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 A good reference in the mean time:http://support.casio.com/download_files/008/DL/DATAEDITORS1-E1B.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I've been fooling around with various editing programs such as Ctrlr. Ctlr is able to create "panels" that represent a controller, for example the PG-800 for the JX-8P. I learned this morning that Ctlr will also create VST controllers that can be dropped into a track. As I have time, I think it would be cool to see if a controller for the XW-P1 could be created with Ctrl. Perhaps I could float something out here and get feedback for improvements. A community project, as it were.www.ctrlr.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitrak Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Travst, that sounds really great!So if this works out it would be possibIe to control many more parameters in realtime through a midi controller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Travst, that sounds really great!So if this works out it would be possibIe to control many more parameters in realtime through a midi controller?Yes. My understanding is that one can build a panel tied to the XW functions and control it with a MIDI controller. I understand most of the work involved in developing panels. However, I am not a graphic artist who can make buttons and the slick custom stuff. I'm playing with it now, but it will be a while before I get up to speed due to the limited amount of time I have to spend on stuff like this.I have a week off at Christmas. If I can avoid going to the in-law's for the week, I will have some time to dig deep into all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookin4 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Just so happens im look at getting an audio interface for my xw-p1 just dont know anything about them but im reading things about it........ any input about it would be great help to me . Thanks,Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Andrew, are you wanting to record into the computer? That's a big topic. I use Reaper for recording and a Phonic Firefly as my interface. If you want to learn more about recording, check out gearslutz.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookin4 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yes I want to record into my computer and not using microphones I have no speakers for my xw-p1 I have just been using headphones, So Im trying to record using the line in on my on board sound card .......... so I have music creator 6 software installed on my computer and I can see what that my xw-p1 is recording now but I cant hear it play back with headphones or pc speakers.......... so I wounder if I was to hook up a USB mixer or something.......... any help would be great help. Thanks,Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 You have a routing problem if you can't hear the music playback. I assume that you have the phones plugged into the computer's soundcard? And the Casio out (L channel mono) to the line in on the card? The first thing that I'd look at is the options in Windows. Right-click the little speaker in the lower right of the screen and check to see which playback and recording devices are being used. Reset them to other defaults as necessary.If I were at home, I'd get a screenshot of my setup for you, but we can help you through this. No need for a mixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Yeah, Travst is right here. Basically you have to go into the windows mixer, enable line in as your capture source and enable capture and set the volumes to audible levels.At that point you should be able to capture a WAV file with Windows Soundrec and then convert it to a MP3 with a utility like LAME.Then again a Mixer could be a nice addition to have and would allow you to feed multiple instruments and mics to your mix and would provide additional buffering and line impedance matching and level control. Mine even adds effects to the mix. All in all a cheap but good mixer could add a lot to your setup for about $100 or so.But for the time being, til you get a proper amp and such, changiing the settings in Windows Mixer as I described above will allow you to hear and record from your XW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Keep in mind that most, if not all, inexpensive mixers only feed a stereo mix to the computer. As you expand, you may want to have separate line ins for each instrument/mic and use something like a USB interface. Over time as you learn, your needs will become much more obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Personally I'm using one of these right now.http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-XENYX-1202FX-Premium-12-Input/dp/B000J5Y214/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354642399&sr=8-1&keywords=1202fxFor ~$100 I don't think there's anything else out there with more bang for the buck. It has separate Line Outs for my monitors and a pair of RCA outs that I feed simultaneously to my computer. It also has 100 DSP effects built in which are a hell of a lot easier to set up than the DSP effects on the XW.Bear in mind that a 12 Channel Mixer like this one is 12 Mono channels which translates to 6 Stereo channels in the final mixdown.Anyway, for about $100 I don't think you could go wrong with this or its little brother the 10 channel 1002FX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Gary, I was just giving him something to think about. I wish I had a dime for every guy who's bought a mixer thinking that it was going to feed 24 channels into his DAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 ROFLMFAO :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookin4 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 yes ok but i can hear what i have put together with music creator 6 all the things i drag and dropped in the tracks just the input from the xw-p1 is the only thing i cant hear and i have changed the setting in windows still nothing,,,,,,,,,, now it is an on board sound card i do have a sound blaster Audigy i am going to install i guess see if that helps any. Thanks,Andrew ...........always lost lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travst Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Andrew, I'd look at the track in Creator that you want to track the Casio on. There should be a way to select the track input. See if you can find it and try the various options. Update us with what you see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Don't waste your time swapping sound cards. This is either a connection issue or a software issue.First of all how are you connected to the sound card?You should be using a cable like this one :http://www.amazon.co...ono male 6 footWith the Mono 1/4" leads plugged into the L and R line outs on your keyboard and the 3.5 mm stereo lead plugged into the blue socket on your sound card.Then you should adjust mixer settings in Windows to recognize the line in as the capture source and adjust the Capture and Line level sliders on your mixer to levels where you hear sound thru your computer speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Here's a Youtube video that might help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Here's another tutorial that's cakewalk specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookin4 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 ok yes i do have that cable but its got a Stereo plug on the 1/4 and going into the black outlet on my soundcard and i also have a midi plug going to the USB and there is only one options in my sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Null Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!The 1/4" plugs have to be MONO and there has to be two of them feeding the 3.5 mm STEREO plug!And it plugs into the BLUE input on your soundcard.Disconnect what you have and pray you haven't blown out any circuits already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookin4 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 come on dont say stuff like that i have only had this for a month it cant be blown out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookin4 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 ok im stopping where i am ill just use it for myself no one needs to hear my sounds thanks for all your help guys but im not going to blow out my casio im stoppin now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookin4 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 well its dead i dont here anything at all now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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