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Yes...the buttons hold up nice.   Even the data wheel has endured an amazing amount of spinning.  I wore off the paint on my data wheel. 

 

As far as EQ Flat.....I suspected that the EQ Flat setting was supposed to remove the custom EQ that is applied to the sound generator.  Years ago I noticed that the MZ's sound is EQ'ed for it's own speaker system and there is no way to flatten the EQ for recording from the line-out jacks.  One would think that EQ Flat would do it but NO.  I've resorted to reversing the EQ curve myself by ear using the EQ in Cakewalk when I record the MZ.

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On 12/23/2013 at 5:17 PM, Brad MZ PX said:

Yes...the buttons hold up nice.   Even the data wheel has endured an amazing amount of spinning.  I wore off the paint on my data wheel. 

 

As far as EQ Flat.....I suspected that the EQ Flat setting was supposed to remove the custom EQ that is applied to the sound generator.  Years ago I noticed that the MZ's sound is EQ'ed for it's own speaker system and there is no way to flatten the EQ for recording from the line-out jacks.  One would think that EQ Flat would do it but NO.  I've resorted to reversing the EQ curve myself by ear using the EQ in Cakewalk when I record the MZ.

Hi Brad,

Strange about  this EQing.  I must check it out.

Rgds.

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HI, I looked and found a battery which was my choice one of two  - both had the same diameter -this one is CR2450 and  for me as I remember was looking promising also. The only problem  is that original has attached leads and is pemanently soldered to main board. If that is solved then any 3V lithium battery will do.

Rgds.

Hi, I tried to replace with similar parameters. Nothing poluchilos.Budu referred to a specialist. For a reminder of battery settings thanks. I wish to resolve the issue in advance to all users MZ2000 batteries :)

Merry Christmas!

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...this response to a post from "How my love of synths came about" thread. 

 

Thanks Brad,

I looked at PX-5S - Its beautifull. Anyway  Also You did best to keep MZ-2000 too. New model doesn't have synth section which is  rich in MZ and it is my point of interest.

Mike. the PX-5S not only has a synth section but is much much better than the synth in the MZ-2000.  Actually, that's putting it lightly. Incredible stacks of animated sounds can be made.  Trust me... It's way better.  You would be amazed at the sounds it can make. Despite my experience with the MZ-2000, I continue to be amazed at what the PX-5s can do.  If you like Vangelis, the PX-5s can do it.  

 

 So if you mention about speakers in MZ and PX and loosing midrange it flashes lights for me  :ph34r: . I couldn't find anything about PX speakers and output power in manual - does it have ?

The PX-5s does not have speakers. 

 

 

 Casio MZ has strongest speaker system I saw. in keyboards - inside there are properly done bass chambers and that is why it sounds so rich. For tone  test all effects and master must be off and no reverb nor Chorus. I also pay high attention to midrange. My impression  is that MZ-2000 has no (present on out jacks) 

15w + 15w with vented enclosures and acoustic padding inside of them.  Very powerful sound. 

MZ-2000 EQ Flat Demo.mp3

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Hi Brad,

 

The difference is obvious.  . By ear judgement is bloody tricky - sometime the sound sample is just taken from such sounding  instrument and only that  may be adopted like in mixer of MZ-2000. General EQing for me is too much. . I don't complain because for piano example - there is a lot of instruments and producer selects only those which are acclaimed by customers. Example  when I used WK-1800 my friends were amazed with piano tone while I disliked - of course it was my instrument so I didn't argue  :lol:  . Earphones are crazy different too - I had them a lot and no one was transparent, more, no one can be transparent due to human ear shape too near.  . I took me many years how  to recognize that sound more or less  properly presented, even not pleasant one. Basic condition is that all sounds of all instruments and other noises should be  clear and natural

 

I could only read manual to PX -5S - no word about synth function, only part E-14 says about modifyng and editing sounds. It's not what I mean. Then I tried tutorials moves from Casio markieting - not a word about Envelope, LFOs, DSP like CTK-900 or MZ in four layers has, how to save user tone. So if there is synth section for user then you have to forgive my opinion based on this.

 

I send my piano file - if You accept quality and need to have like this at MZ-2000 I will pass to You all settings in form of photos of synth screens. Other way is problem because my flopy does not coopearate with floppy in PC. Time between 01,00 and 01,25 min is factory MZ-2000 Grand Piano1

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rec1227-192622 piano.mp3

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Hey Mike,  I noticed you had a file uploaded in the PX-5s section.  The admins of this site deleted that because it was not in the proper location. There's currently no category for files like the MZ-2000 demo MP3.  

 

 

I could only read manual to PX -5S - no word about synth function, only part E-14 says about modifyng and editing sounds. It's not what I mean. Then I tried tutorials moves from Casio markieting - not a word about Envelope, LFOs, DSP like CTK-900 or MZ in four layers has, how to save user tone. So if there is synth section for user then you have to forgive my opinion based on this.

The manuals are not written clearly.  Go to page E-11 thru page E-18 of the tutorial manual.   There's charts of all of the editable parameters for 3 types of user tones.  Melody Tones (basic tone)  Drum Tones (yes the PX5 can edit drum tones down to each individual note)  and Hex Layer Tones (a 6 layer tricked out version of the previous 4 layer tones in the MZ). 

 

Mike, so much has changed since the MZ-2000 that it is difficult to explain it all.  User tones on the MZ had to be stored in user slots with a max of 40 and there was only 1 type of tone.  The PX5 has 220 slots divided among 3 different types of tones.  There's another difference.  User tones can be saved in a new way.  What was called registration on the MZ is now called stage settings.  User synth tones on the PX5 will be saved inside of a stage setting where they live.

 

 

 

I send my piano file - if You accept quality and need to have like this at MZ-2000 I will pass to You all settings in form of photos of synth screens. Other way is problem because my flopy does not coopearate with floppy in PC. Time between 01,00 and 01,25 min is factory MZ-2000 Grand Piano1

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No need for photos of synth screen.  That sounds like to much work.   Thank you anyway.

 

 

BTW....Nice Piano tune and sound.

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Hey Mike,  I noticed you had a file uploaded in the PX-5s section.  The admins of this site deleted that because it was not in the proper location. There's currently no category for files like the MZ-2000 demo MP3.  

 

 

The manuals are not written clearly.  Go to page E-11 thru page E-18 of the tutorial manual.   There's charts of all of the editable parameters for 3 types of user tones.  Melody Tones (basic tone)  Drum Tones (yes the PX5 can edit drum tones down to each individual note)  and Hex Layer Tones (a 6 layer tricked out version of the previous 4 layer tones in the MZ). 

 

Mike, so much has changed since the MZ-2000 that it is difficult to explain it all.  User tones on the MZ had to be stored in user slots with a max of 40 and there was only 1 type of tone.  The PX5 has 220 slots divided among 3 different types of tones.  There's another difference.  User tones can be saved in a new way.  What was called registration on the MZ is now called stage settings.  User synth tones on the PX5 will be saved inside of a stage setting where they live.

 

 

 

No need for photos of synth screen.  That sounds like to much work.   Thank you anyway.

 

 

BTW....Nice Piano tune and sound.

I even do not know how long I've been experimenting from time to time with few pianos -started from purchase and ended 6 moths from now -3 years . Thank You for turning my attention to PX - with OMV  price  it's good deal for such highly packed machine but in Poland may be much more.  If CME fails more and I can't repair  PX would be my choice for hammer action- keys much better than CME plus all stuff is unparallel...

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. :)

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  If you decide to get a PX-5S, this is the place for help in using it.  Lot's of owners to help, including me and lot's of free sounds to download including ones I've made.

 

BTW.  I'd love to share some of the patterns and sounds I've made for the MZ-2000 but it seems no one else with an MZ has a working floppy drive in their computer anymore.  I wonder why?   :D

:rolleyes: As You may expect I have working one in my Dell GX280. I am hardly reformovable he he.

But used last time  two years ago when I tried to read my floppy discs with MZ data - another problem. During cleaning my MZ floppy I had to move head adjustment and now it is reading only its own later records.  For my registration and sound records it.s enough.  .

I found Mike Martin explanation about making user tones -  it looks good :)  . 

Rgds.

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:rolleyes: As You may expect I have working one in my Dell GX280. I am hardly reformovable he he.

But used last time  two years ago when I tried to read my floppy discs with MZ data - another problem. During cleaning my MZ floppy I had to move head adjustment and now it is reading only its own later records.  For my registration and sound records it.s enough.  .

I found Mike Martin explanation about making user tones -  it looks good :)  . 

Rgds.

 

If it's a standard 1.44 MB floppy drive why not look around for a standard replacement drive?  They cost around $10 and it's pretty much a once size fits all deal.

 

And I still own one of these just for when I come across the occasional legacy file I need to load into my computer.

 

http://www.amazon.com/1-44MB-USB-External-Floppy-Drive/dp/B000M3GODW/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1388254761&sr=8-4&keywords=usb+floppy

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  • 3 weeks later...

Here's Casio's tricked out demo mode slideshow in pics.  Each screen accompanies it's own demo song.  The image slides are loaded from floppy disc as the demo plays. If the floppy disc is not present, the 11 songs will play through without the slideshow.  BTW. There's 23 more built-in demo tunes and 10 more on the factory floppy disc for a total of 44 demos songs.  

 

 

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10post-1490-0-80219000-1390069000_thumb.jp  and since 10 is the max in one post...11 is below.

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There's one on Ebay right now, currently at less than £100 GBP though with the 'reserve not met'.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Casio-MZ-2000-Keyboard-Arranger-61-Keys-Touch-Sensitive-/191045556965?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Keyboard_RL&hash=item2c7b33dae5

 

The MZ was also Casio's flagship keyboard at the turn on the millennium. It was a serious, professional arranger/ workstation keyboard costing over £1000. Some of the sounds it is still capable of are fantastic, and I am certainly holding on to mine. They CAN be picked up for bargain prices as they are relatively unknown, and the usual 'synth snobbery' stops many people from having one simply because of the Casio name. Well, the joke's on them for sure, as this is one very powerful keyboard. Try layering some of the 'MG' (read 'Moog') sounds in two oscillators, detune one slightly and then play around with the cut off and resonance. Be prepared to be impressed!

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