Damper Pedal Question

[CGO777]

Hi folks - my name is Carl

Love my PX5S

 

Problem:

 

I was creating my own stage setting based on factory preset 1-4,

which featured Clav with wa effect using pedal 1

 

Zone 1 - factory set clav with Wa-wa ( changed key range to eliminate top keys )

 

I added: 

Zone 2 - Clavi 4 ( changed key range to eliminate top keys )

Zone 3 - Air Piano 1

Zone 4 - Syn Brass 1 - assigned to high keys only with octave lowered

 

during edit i noticed that the Zone 1 pedal setting was having a bad effect on the Zone 3 piano...

notes wouldn't speak on the piano, probably affected by the cutoff,

but I decided to save anyway.

 

After saving, the wa effect on Zone 1 disappeared.

I recreated it

 

When I saved that edit, damper effect disappeared from all zones.

 

I went to common edit and made sure that the pedal 1 was set to CC64 Hold,

I went into pedal assignments to each one to be sure pedal 1 is enabled,

but to no avail.

 

All other stage settings work fine.

 

Questions

1) how can I get damper pedal (hold) to work again on Stage Setting 1-4?

2) Why did the original wa clav effect go away when I tried to save?

3) Is it possible to have pedal 1 providing cutoff on 1 zone while it is doing normal damper effect on the other zones?

 

Thanks and God Bless

Carl

[Brad Saucier]

Carl, the last thing you mentioned hit the nail on the head.  It's not possible to have pedal 1 do something different in each zone.  If you're adding zones to that original wah clav then you should turn off pedal 1 for those other zones and setup a second pedal for damper that is only enabled for those zones you need damper on.

[CGO777]

Thanks Bread -  that is really helpful

 

I assigned the filter cutoff to pedal 2, and that works perfectly, allowing me to have the wa on zone 1

 

BUT DAMPER PEDAL PROLEM REMAINS

 

i went into each of the 4 zones common edit, and made sure Pedal 1 target

is "CC64 Hold" - but there is still no sustain on any zone

 

any idea why? 

[Brad Saucier]

Did you check to see if pedal 1 is on for the zones and pedal 2 is off for the others?  That's under stage setting zone controller edit. 

[CGO777]

Hi Brad - I just installed the firmware update so I am starting over with editing

 

i have altered the patch entitled "illuminated" - # 0-3

 

I assigned a breathy tenor sax to the top register on Zone 4 - top 2 octaves only

Turned off Pedal 1 Damper for Zone 4

 

Changed the note range for Zones 1-2-3 to be off for top 2 octaves, so the sax will speak alone

 

PROBLEM

Pedal 1 now provides Damper for Zones 1-2-3 - great

 

I want Pedal 2 to control separate damper for Sax on Zone 4

When I assign Pedal 2 to CC 64 Hold, and play a note and press Pedal 2,

it sustains and will not stop - pedal 2 has no further effect - any note on Zone 4 that i add also sustains indefinitely and will not stop

 

WHY WOULD THIS HAPPEN

Can I not have pedal 1 do damper function for Zones 1-2-3 (with Pedal 1 turned off to Zone 4)

and at the same time have pedal 2 provide damper function for Zone 4?

 

thanks for your help and God Bless

[Brad Saucier]

Have a look at the MIN MAX values of Pedal 2 in Target Edit. The MIN value is at 70.  It needs to be 0 for the HOLD function.  Also look at the ON OFF rate.  Those are set at 16.  They need to be 127 for HOLD to work without any delay.  As they are, set at 16, it takes a half second before HOLD engages and disengages which as a side note this could be very useful for something but I'm not sure what yet. 

[CGO777]

Thank you!  That did it - I have been a performing musician all my life and a conductor, but have done almost nothing with midi, so I don't know simple things like this!  Thanks Again, God Bless

[Brad Saucier]

To be fair, those settings are rare or maybe even unique to the PX5s.  It's understandable that one wouldn't know about them.