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Okay.........Mike Martin was gracious to guide me through a couple of " Casio Logic" moves that resulted in:

A channeling of my emails to him to the forum to the benefit of all...

1. Successful download of updates for BOTH the XW P1 and the PX 5S.

2. My old instincts kicked in. Those who know me will  know that I will be relentless in sharing anything I think of value,  no charge.

3. I am a teacher, My  thought is  slowbut very methodical.

4. My desire it to sincerely contribute to the Casio effort.

5. My goal: To address owners of two Casio models and their communication benefits.

Feel free to look me up...or ask for info. I am a little cooky, but very sincere.

Thanks MIke Martin, Jerry K. and Casio.

 

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Hello Tom, also have benefited from Mike and Casio's support (see my "pooched" XW-P1 thread). I am also a teacher, retired not from music though working on actively contributing here. No PX5S, but PX350 and XW-P1 former CZ player/owner/programmer from back.then, wonderful fun then, still is. Working on developing a PX350 editor or expanding its capabilities which seems to have generated some interest here...I think.  Alot of very knowledgeable helpful people here. I even met Mike Martin in the Dover, NJ headquarters. He personally met me when I had the XW repaired, what a great guy (hope you're reading this Mike! :)  Free PX t-shirt too. Maybe if I break my PX, I can get a matching hat for my big head! ;)

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Many of my posts will also address the use of electronic wind instruments with the Casio's, including the EVI and the midi sax DH-100, as well as tips for using the XW and PX as controllers for vocal processing harmonizers, i.e. TC-Helicon and others. EVI can be heard here:

https://www.youtube...._id=vpPXYKy-lCo

 

Also, a side note, the "finish" of the keys on the PX-5S adds more congtrol under your hands for certain phrasings. It almost feels like ivory and ebony materials.

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I don't have a PX-5S, though I would like one. However, owning 28 Casios already, which include an XW-G1 and and XW-P1, I can't justify such a purchase at present. Not least because in my collection I also have a CZ-1, a VZ-1, an HT6000 and an FZ-20M, so I already have most of the previous Casio flagship synths (most bought at rock bottom bargain prices).

 

Then again, who knows what the future will bring?!!!

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Looking forward to learning more about these instruments. I started out with a PX-5S but then after reading this forum added an XW-P1, XW-G1, and a WK-7600. Now my "retail therapy" is played out and I need to start learning what I can do with these keyboards!

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I own the PX5S and I'm thinking about getting the XWP1.  Can't decide between that and the WK7600.  Both have the drawbar organ function (exactly the same, if I'm not mistaken), but the WK7600 has 76 keys which I really like.  However, the XWP1 has the synth sounds I really like, too.  Can't make up my mind!!!

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Maybe this will help you make up your mind.

 

The XW-P1 not only has the synths and the organs, it also has hex layers, step sequencer and phrase sequencer and arpeggiators and the sounds are almost infinitely editable.

 

The 61 keys are not a problem for most popular music, and if it is an obstacle it's easy enough to use the PX-5S as a controller to give you a full 88 keys.

 

While the XW-P1 is a fantastic performance synth, the WK7600 is really just an arranger keyboard intended mainly for working with stock sounds and rhythms. 

 

As a creative tool, I'd say the XW beats the WK series hands down.

 

Gary

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The Step Sequencer on the XW is NOT a full fledged MIDI sequencer.  That is something you'd find on the WK and CTK series.

 

Instead the step sequencer can be thought of more like a drum machine.  It only has 16 steps or beats to an entire sequence and is only intended to accompany you when you don't have a drummer or a full band backing you up.

 

Multiple sequences can be chained up to a max of 99 but in practice you'd only chain a few for an intro, stanza, chorus and ending.

 

It's actually pretty simple to use and really has almost nothing whatsoever to do with regular MIDI sequencing.

 

Again it's the WK that actually has a 16 track MIDI DAW style sequencer built in.

 

Gary

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Hello for Tom, I just noticed reading this post over again, re-midi wind controllers. I owned the Casio DH-100 which foolishly years ago I sold due to the defect which is now of course easily repaired! I play reeds too, have watched the progression of wind controllers EWI and Yamaha for awhile but have hesitated to purchase any. Would be interested in your opinion. I've been studying websites-seems the WX series are too plasticky for some, the advanced EWIs are pretty expensive but maybe more playable, closer to a woodwind experience. And the new Akai USB doesn't thrill me-lokks too toylike and don't want to be tethered to a computer!

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Jokeyman  >>>  I bought an EWI USB a few months ago and I've found it extremely difficult to play.  The fingering of G# is non standard if you're used to a flute or a clarinet which constantly screws me up and the breathing is nothing like any wind instrument I've seen except possibly an oboe.

 

Basically it's an exercise in holding your breath like blowing up an unstretched balloon instead of a normal flow like a flute or a sax.

 

Instead of lip action for modulation, you bite on a mouthpiece sensor to activate trills and such sort of like biting on a sax reed except you use your upper teeth instead of your lowers.

 

Honestly I would have to say I'd classify it as a totally different class of wind instrument unlike anything else ever seen on this planet and it will take years of supreme effort to master one of these.

 

Upshot is, with a good breath controller, you can reproduce any sound the EWI can make on a keyboard with a far shallower learning curve and a hell of a lot less effort.

 

I pick it up now and again but overall I'd have to call it more of an exercise in frustration than the next great thing in music.

 

Gary

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