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PX5 midi setting for Volume/Expression


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Brad, I'm using 2 (or 3) keyboards at a live gig and want to centralize all the controls, so the iPad app is a great solution. 

 

Choppin, For program changes I set the PX5 to use channel 5, (this works.).  My Hammond already uses channel 1,2 and 3.   Would CC's (like 07,11) need to go to different channels to make changes on the casio?

 

 

 

----- UPDATE -  I did test this and sure enough, sending cc07 to channels 1-4 works, even though the keyboard is setup to receive on channel 5.  Having a hard time understanding why that is.  Any ideas? ---

 

Thanks,

mikeG

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"...setup to receive on channel 5."

 

If you are talking about the Basic Channel, that is the channel that the PX receives on to change Stage Settings and other more global midi messages.  CC 07 or 11 are channel specific and need the data sent to the channels you want to control.

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"...setup to receive on channel 5."

 

If you are talking about the Basic Channel, that is the channel that the PX receives on to change Stage Settings and other more global midi messages.  CC 07 or 11 are channel specific and need the data sent to the channels you want to control.

Yup, after some experimenting I figured that out.  Got it working now by using channels 1-4.  Is it possible to override that setting and use different channels?  My SK1 uses 1,2,and 3 and cannot be changed.

Thanks all for the assistance.

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There are a couple of seriously frustrating limitations with the PX-5s midi spec.

1. You can't change the channel a zones 1 - 4 receive on.

2. You can't individually disable a zone's midi reception.

 

The major issue is that there are too many bits of equipment out there that do not allow you to properly configure the midi channels they work on. Or claim to be midi controllers and don't properly provide for dynamic midi configuration (Nord Stage 2..Yes I'm not kidding!). So you end up with a pile of wires and an iPad kludge. Yes I love my iPads, but I remain to be convinced that using them to control your stage rig is really a good idea. It kind of takes me back to the days of the Sinclair Spectrum and all the add on bits hanging off the back.. Not designed to be gigged hard.

 

When you couple these limitations with the lack of continuous controller inputs, meaning you have to use an external midi based volume or expression input, it makes it damn difficult to dynamically configure the PX-5s by simply using Stage Setups. I use zone 1 for the main sound I'm playing which is normally a dynamic sound like piano /electric piano or guitar. This means I can set the overall Px -5s volume level to suit. I'm currently using an Midi Solutions Controller Pedal adaptor to provide Expression control for Zones 2 and 3 (typically Brass and Synth/Strings). Zone 4 is bass from my StudioLogic MP117 pedals and I have my Nord Electro 3 73 (Organ/Strgs/Clav) providing Expression for itself! Ideally I would like to be able to dynamically switch over zone 3 to use the Expression pedal output from the Electro 3, on some songs, by simply selecting a Stage Setup. Can't do it! If the PX-5s allowed me to dynamically change midi input channels for the zones and individually disable midi input for each zone I could. Or if the Px-5s mixer settings were saved as part of a Stage Setup, I could use part 5 for bass.

 

BTW Using the PX-5s Stage setup to set the Electro 3's preset/progam works fine... A lot better than thumbing through 128 presets with 4 buttons!!! Lol. Being able to swap the zone I'm sending the preset from from zone 1 to zone 3 by setting zone 3's midi channel to 1 also works. If only I could change the receive channels! Gasp! 

 

I might add that I'm fighting a loosing battle here. I've just bought an RD800 on which Roland have culled the midi spec... Guess what! you can no longer select the receive channels for parts 1 to 4 AND you can't even configure parts 5 to 16 on the instrument let alone store its configuration!... Oh dear we are going backwards.. the empire is in decline! I was going to sell my RD700SX but it seems nothing can match it as a stage master keyboard. 

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