Jokeyman123 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 There is an interesting "piano shootout" at http://purgatorycreek.com/documents/25.html I have requested they add the PX5s, PX350 or other Casio digital pianos to their database for comparison (there aren't any as of 11/15/2014 althought this is the largest database I've found on the web) or explain how I can, haven't gotten back to me yet, I'm sure it's not difficult to do. I did my own listening comparison, including their Steinway and other acoustic piano recordings. The PX is better than some and certainly equal to anyone including the real Steinway (!) and the newest nords, soundfonts, etc. Nice work Casio. here is the midi file they use to illustrate all of these see attached midi file.pianotest1.mid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XW-Addict Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 That list seems out dated like they have not did comparison in a while it misses lots of the new digital piano's out there today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Do you have the ability to record? If you do, you can record and post your own versions somewhere, such as a SoundCloud set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 This was already done with the purgatory creek midi file a few months ago with the PX-5s here on CMF by member Pax-eterna. He said he used factory stage setting 0-0. https://soundcloud.com/denm_1/casio-px-5s-ravenscroft-275-2 Comparing just one piano tone on the PX-5s is a little misleading. If one piano sound on that model is not to your liking, it can be edited and tailored to suit your needs because of the deep editing on that keyboard. For example....here's one of my piano tone creations that takes the PX-5s piano in a totally different direction.... https://soundcloud.com/bradmz/lofi-upright-stage-setting-for-the-casio-px-5s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Joe, I will work on this today and post back if i make any headway. I can easily record my PX350 and XW-P1 using their .mid file. I am registered on Soundcloud but if the website administrator's allow for direct uploading I might be able to post directly. We at this forum are probably best equipped to add the Casio pianos to this database they (web administrators) allow it. I can post the PX350 and XW-P1 acoustic pianos using the midi composition this website uses (covers a good range of dynamics and octaves). Maybe others here can post the PX5s, CTK and WK acoustic piano tones and other Privias such as the 850 and Celvianos. . Then everyone will be able to compare the respective Casios, and the Casios vs. all the others already there. i want to be sure the owners of this website will allow us to use their .mid file to do this, don't want to infringe on any copyright usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The guy that does Purgatory Creek is somewhat active on the Keyboard Corner. I don't think he cares if you use his MIDI file, especially now that the DP shootout is archived. Also, I don't think he's going to be adding more DPs to his site. I think we'd be best served by uploading the Casios to something like SoundCloud and agreeing on tags so they can all be found easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Ok, I'll take a look at that. Guess all I'd have to do is record the PX and XW as mp3 or maybe .flac and upload to Soundcloud. Then create links here at this post. I'll try to get to this later see what I come up with. Thanks Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Still working on this-wanted to wait until I got the "Perfect Piano" expansion card for my Ensoniq MR76-to compare and post, since this is considered "historically" to be one of the better digital acoustic piano projects. After my initial comparisons (hearing only, no frequency spectrum software). Coakley piano holds up very well. It is a major step up from the stock Ensoniq acoustic piano in the MR and after careful listening to many other digital piano online examples, is definitely still very good-it is a 16MB piano in the Ensoniq version although Coakley has created larger soundfonts more recently. Compared to my Casio PX-350-almost indistinguishable in the lower and upper octaves to my ears, but the middle octaves-which always seem to be a problem with sampled pianos IMO-I give the advantage to the Casio. It seems to be slightly fuller sounding during sustain, and less "flat" sounding-I seem to hear some phase cancellation or compression in the Coakley I don't hear in the Casio but only in these middle octaves (admittedly the most important ones for most styles!) The "Perfect Piano" does have a realistic "harp" emulation. I think again the Casio is slightly richer sounding. If I had to rely on either for classical, i think the Casio would be my first choice. I am going to hook the MR76 up to the PX350 to see if the piano action on the Casio is partly responsible for my perceptions about the sounds, which it may be. The fact the Casio has 3 layers of sensors and the Ensoniq (Fatar) action only one and must rely more on software interpolation for differences in dynamic response definitely makes an audible difference when I play on the Ensoniq. The PX action may bring out more nuances to the Coakley than does the Fatar. And I have been keeping reverb out of the equation for both. Reverb can cover a multitude of sins, why some manufacturers lay it on heavy in their stock sounds. Out for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Here is a link to the Soundcloud file I uploaded of the PX350 classical piano setting, with no effects. I made this public, so I think anyone here can access it without logging in. There are many other pianos on this page demonstrating the same composition. I didn't play this, it is from the "purgatory creek" website. I don't remember if the other pianos are using reverb, have to check that website again. Sounds like the others are. I'm impressed with how good most of these are. Of course, I did not record the Casio with an audiophile board-just straight into my computer's line input from the Casio line-out, but at least it's stereo. The other pianos i believe were recorded using higher end recording equipment, so this comparison may not be a fair one. At least you can get an idea if you do not have a PX. I used Audacity for the recording. https://soundcloud.com/rupert-pupkin-1diophile 2/casio-px350-test 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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