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36 minutes ago, Casiofun said:

The major part of the noise is the keys going up and down on soft felt. They also contact the key rests that make contact under the part that is pressed. Regreasing the keys is what is done to quiet them down again. That is how they are fixed under warranty.

This is correct. I have regreased my WK 7600 keys twice now over the years I've owned it. Each time it restores the feel, smoothness and eliminates key clatter. I posted a video (in Russian but followable) on the forums on a similar thread before. The WK/CTK later keyboard have the same key set up as on the newer ct-x. I really wish Casio would drop these piano style keys....

Did you distance buy your PX560M? - If so, try to negotiate with your seller to collect your board, country dependent distant selling laws, you may be covered within your time frame for a back to shop replacement. If you are out of these time frames, contact them anyway for support, you may be able to negotiate some deal on servicing...

Which country are you based?

Im highly skeptical of a Casio in-home repair on any product they sell these days anywhere in the world. But cannot be sure of this...

You will be within a manufacturer warranty and if you do not live near a Casio service shop then you will be looking at mailing your PX560M to their service center...

Im not sure why you dismiss making your own styles? Learning to play the instrument is the hardest part, making styles is the fun part, at least for me...

Have a go...

9 hours ago, diegosynth said:

 

Is this easy to do? I mean, I´ll put grease on a part of the key and the problem would be solved? Thanks for the information, I didn´t know nothing about this key bed mechanism

It is easy requiring only basic tools but time consuming. Take a look at this post which is relevant to you 

I link a video which is in Russian but is self explanatory. He uses a marine type blue silicone grease but I used a clear/white medium density lithium grease. I would say if you do have a warranty though to use it as you will almost certainly void your warranty if you require repair in the future. The choice and risk is obviously yours. 

Its normal to an extent. Due to the key bed design it relies on grease to lubricate, sound deaden and also help with the feel of each of the keys. There is nothing broken inside your key bed mechanism but just requires service. If it is new it has been known for these to come out of the factory this way but it is unusual. I have done this "repair" on my wk-7600 and it transformed the feel and playability of the instrument. Unfortunately this is one of the tradeoffs from casio to produce a feature packed arranger at a low price. It is a fairly easy DIY job but if you have warranty I'd urge your to exercise your consumer rights and have your nearest repair centre take on the trouble. 

I use the WK-7600 with pitch bend and mod button. A wheel is not only easier but you have more control. It is possible to operate both pitch bend and button but requires a bit of practice to get used to especially if you're coming from the use of a wheel. 

On 06/04/2018 at 6:29 AM, skyy38 said:

 

You don't "think"?
 

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CTX5000--casio-ct-x5000-61-key-portable-keyboard

You misunderstood the context in which I was referring to. I was talking exclusively about 76/88 key keyboards in reply to a previous comment. 

It will be very similar to the WK/CTK series and at first it is like pulling teeth, but you become more accustomed to it. Obviously, a fat touch screen would be better, but costs n all....

As far as i can tell, the Yamaha E-453 is better judged against the CT-X800, what with its pitch bend wheel and USB drive. I think then the Casio budget CT-X series looks even worse as the X800 is even more expensive with more similar features. Im not even sure X800 it is going to be available in the UK from what i can discern and its not hard to see why. The E-453 has a few features which i do like and sound wise it is pretty close in some aspects with the new Casio models. I do agree with you that the pricing is a little off here in the UK and the Yamaha has to be the better buy, in my opinion. But i'd be interested to read your thoughts on the X3000/5000 models as this i think is the sweet spot for this line up and have an incredible amount of features packed in for their price that from what i can tell, has no competitor anywhere near it...

42 minutes ago, Larry Richards said:

 just received my CT x700 the other day. I find the user guide a bit confusing for a old guy like me .Why cant Casio include a how to get started video with the keyboard. Setups are completely different than the 2 other Casio WK keyboards I have. Also another problem am having is that as I change from one sound to another there sometimes is a big difference in the volume even within the same category so you almost have to readjust the volume for every sound change. I was wondering about that when watching a CT X700 demonstration video on youtube and someone standing on the side was adjusting the volume as the player was changing the sounds...

I have been wondering about that actually, i haven't checked the manual myself, but they are pretty woeful on the WK/CTK series and hoped there would be improvements in the manual....

Other than some humorous translation errors it is in line roughly with what i would expect. A shame though that the speakers are on the poor quality side according to this reviewer, which obviously we knew they are not that powerful at only 2.5 watts, but to showcase that AiX sound on a portable instrument, possibly their largest generation leap in terms of sound ever, i would like to have seen 5 watts at least as we see 7 watts on the older CTK-7200 model which is similarly priced.

5 hours ago, CharlieWorton said:

I think the 7600 increased the number of slider positions to 9 from 3 on the 7500.  But outside of that, there were no physical differences of which I am aware.

 

I hope Casio introduces some new 76 key keyboards.  That's kind of a deal breaker for me.  I'd prefer 88, but I can live with 76.  If Casio is no longer engineering new 76 key keyboards, I'd probably have to look at the competition; and those boards are pricey enough that I probably would wind up purchasing nothing.

 

Sigh.  If the 7600 had better voices, it would be the perfect keyboard.

 

>Charlie

The screen was slightly inclined more on the wk7600 and the separate external mic volume control knob the was omitted. I think there were a few extra tones and rhythms and the speakers reportedly sound a bit better but overall the changes were subtle to say the least.

I made a reply on another thread regarding the x3000 and x5000 differences. "The biggest difference appears to be the power of the speakers on the two. 15w on the X5000 and 6w on the X3000. Other subtle differences appear to be a lack of modulation button, 50 user rhythm storage on the x3000 (100 on the x5000) and a few less system reverb and chorus types.... Not huge differences."

Whether that makes it worth it to you is your choice. In regards to the MSRP I wouldn't take that as gospel. The Wk7600 has had a MSRP OF £499 in the UK for years but at many music stores its been around 330-399 for years. The prices I listed on my first post are confirmed at my gears4music store for the ctx and the US typically get similarly priced products in the UK in $. 

Is the X5000 really double the price of the X3000 in your country? The X5000 has a few more features, not least the far more superior speaker system...

In the UK its £329.00 for the x3000 and £389.00 for the X5000.

The X3000 has far more features than the X800. 

It has more polyphony

Better speakers

More tones and Rhythms

A 17 track sequencer

More memory

And im sure a lot more.

For me it's actually the x700- x800 that doesn't make much sense in terms of cost. A Pitch bend wheel and and additional USB seems to be the only difference for your extra dollars. But that's just one mans opinion...

Other than the drawbars and organ aspect, Id expect the CT-X to be equal or better every way. I'd expect the sequencer functions to work similarly or the same. Although I I mentioned in another thread I'd expect there to be absolute bargains out there for the ctk/wk over the next year but I wouldn't buy one right now. Also, in respects to the CT-X series I sincerely hope they have improved the manual over the ctk/wk series... 

2 hours ago, mirka said:

 

Very true but i think the word will be spread very fast trough forums/youtube  that people do not have to look at a Korg Kross/Roland DS/Yamaha Mx/S670  anymore when a CTX3000/5000  sounds so good for that little money.

I am confident Casio people read this forum and other ones and with the probable big success of this CTX series will come up with a 76 keys version and maybe even a 88 hammer weighted  keys version which could cause real damage to Korg/Yamaha/Roland  88 keys workstations.

I think depending on the sales, the AiX source i believe will feature in other models in the future, i just don't think it will be in the CT-X range. 

I would love a 76 key variant but i don't think they'll be one. I own the WK7600 and agree from the sounds Casio want us to hear it sounds great and far exceeds the WK7600 capability, although the organ is good on the WK/CTK. I have spent hours and hours refining the sounds as best as i can and have gotten reasonable results out of it, better than factory sounds IMO, but the CT-X series appear to be in a different league. I believe even with just 61 keys it will be a big seller for them with those sounds and i hope it is because this could only be a good thing for the future of the Casio Music department for their future keyboard products...

All new CT-X models are only confirmed as 61 key models. I personally wouldn't bank on there being a 76 key one. 

On 15/02/2018 at 7:44 AM, Carter said:

Instead of improving a product, it seems they give you a new one, reborn and reimagined.

Casio products have excellent longevity but they are not Korg, Yamaha, Roland etc... They do not have the profits and the R&D budget of these giants in the music business. They are budget keyboards like it or not and yes, they have been known release a new keyboard that is similar to the last (casio WK/CTK series) However, it's normally after years and generally they have improved functionality where they couldn't be improved via software releases. Naturally, we'd all love more software updates and improved functionality but when you operate this cheaply, your business must have compromises and im afraid this appears to be one.

15 hours ago, tuxfriend said:

Yeah, that is steep. Normally manufacturers take the US$ price and use the same number for EUR, but around 70% higher price than in the US? Casio should rethink that.

EDIT: Btw, the WK-7600 is cheaper right now in Germany (€335) compared with the US where it costs around €358 ($449). ;-)

Over the next 12 months there is going to be some great deals on the WK/CTK series as Casio look to offload the stock. Already the CTK 7200 is an excellent proposition only just more expensive that the X700. It's older tech but they have some useful features that the X700 do not have. 

2 hours ago, Mike Martin said:

 

CT-X700 is available now.  All other models, end of May.  At least that is when we will get them in the USA.

Ah right you are Mike. Seems a little different here in the UK, at least that is what this stockist is estimating https://www.gear4music.com/Keyboards--Modules/Casio

There is definitely inconsistencies with the key beds with this generation of WK/CTK/XW/MZX Casio's. I don't necessarily think its poor design but inconsistencies in the mass production process. If you have a warranty use it. If you don't and can operate a screw driver with a careful hand it is not too difficult to disassemble and lube the keys up with grease. It restores a more premium feel to the keys over the plastic rattly feel of those without or are well used. It is worth it...

27 minutes ago, Stewart said:

I have a Yamaha psr s500 that don't work and i was thinking of taking that keybed out of it and put it in the XWP1.  I was wondering if that would work. Thanks. 

Never tried it but I highly doubt it. The keys are not piano style for a start. The keys also come apart in different sized clusters to the Casio's and almost certainly have a different moulded construction and therefore mechanism that would require significant, perhaps impossible modifications. Its just my opinion based on what i know, i am by no means an expert but i really cannot see it happening...

The CT-X3000 should be available about 1 month before the X5000. Around mid/end of April...

The biggest difference appears to be the power of the speakers on the two. 15w on the X5000 and 6w on the X3000. Other subtle differences appear to be a lack of modulation button, 50 user rhythm storage on the x3000 (100 on the x5000) and a few less system reverb and chorus types.... Not huge differences.