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Great thread. Thanks to AlenK et al. for posting.

Thanks Jokeyman123. Excellent reply. I'm going to keep the WK7600, no matter what. Will just get the money, even if I have to wait and save for an extra month or two. No big deal, and anyway it will give me more time to explore the WK7600. Your posts are very informative. The rhythm stuff, especially user created, is all ahead of me. Looking forward to learning it. I might be jumping the gun a bit, getting ahead of myself with the PX560 thing. But for me it's an especially exciting keyboard. Probably what will happen is that I will be forced to wait a bit longer than I now anticipate. But I've got my WK7600 to keep me very busy. Posted a few questions in the PX560 forum here. Still have to watch a bunch of PX560 videos, check the manual, and then practice/record on the WK7600. It's going to be a very late night. hahahaha

1. I noticed that sometimes it's written PX560M. What does the M stand for? 2. Can the PX560 record multitrack sequencer playback stuff as high quality audio to usb stick ? (I know it can record single track real time performances as high quality audio to usb stick.) 3. What's the best sustain pedal to use with the PX560? 4. Who are the most trustworthy retailers of musical keyboards? I want a brand new PX560. 5. Are there any technical issues with the PX560 that seem to be more than just very rare hardware or software anomalies? 6. Is the PX560 considered to be a workstation/arranger keyboard? 7. Seems like this keyboard has been around for a while. Is there any chance of Casio producing a replacement/upgrade or discontinuing the PX560 in the foreseeable future? I guess that's about it for now. I'm going to watch some PX560 YouTube vids, and also look through the manual that I downloaded. Thanks for any comments. After a bit of research, I've pretty much settled on the PX560. Looks, and sounds, like a pretty fantastic keyboard. Still about 2 to 3 months away from getting it though. Which is ok since I haven't learned how to do everything on my WK7600 yet.

This was an especially good point among many in your recent post. Even just listening via my speakers, and taking into account the variations in YouTube video sound quality, the quality of the PX560 piano tone is evident. But yeah, headphones is the way to go. Got a nice new set, but they hurt my ears. Need to get a pair with bigger cushion openings for closed back, and maybe also a pair of more 'open' ones like the Grados or whatever.

Jokeyman123, thanks for that very informative reply. I did more research (watching YouTube vids) this morning, and have eliminated the very nice (especially with its sound system) CGP700. But then I happened on the PX-S3000, which sounded really nice ... but it's also not a PX360 or PX560. So, I'm going to try to be patient and take an extra month or two to save for the PX560. As you wrote, the 360/560's color screen is "magnificent". Yes. I haven't been able to find anything as good as either keyboard in their price range. So, I'm going for the PX560. Another real important consideration is whether or not I sell my WK7600 to help finance the PX560. I want to keep it, but the money ... Can the WK7600 do anything that the PX560 can't? Regarding that, I'm wondering if the PX560 can record multitrack sequencer stuff to usb audio. I know the PX560 can record single audio performances, but the WK7600 can do that and also record to SD card any multitrack sequencer stuff that I play back, which is so handy that it has become a necessary feature for me. It wasn't clear to me from the vids I watched whether the PX560 can do that. So, if it can't, then that would be a major reason to not sell the WK7600. Anyway, I downloaded the PX560 manual, and hopefully can find the answer in it. While writing this, I'm thinking more and more that I'm just going to be patient and keep the WK7600 no matter what. It's my first Casio keyboard since back around 2000, and it reminds me of those times. Plus, it's a really fun keyboard that I could use (instead of the PX560) for stuff away from where I live. Going to check out the PX560 forum here in a few minutes, and try to record some piano stuff suitable for uploading later tonight. Thanks again.

Ok, so I've been recording to SD card almost exclusively since my last post. Even though , after conversion, you get 'wav' files that are not quite lossless wav files, it's just so easy to use that I don't bother much with hooking the WK7600 to my computer any more -- and anyway, any difference is, fapp and to my ear, pretty much negligable. It's a pretty great feature to have on a $450 keyboard. Have been practicing more as time passes. Did about 4 hours last night. Still almost exclusively with piano voices (tones). There's so many instrument tones and different ways to tweak them on the WK7600 that I will probably eventually devote a month or two to just exploring all of the tones. But for the time being am mainly concerned with trying to get back up to speed on technique and trying to remember stuff that I've forgotten. I went ahead and sold my Yamaha PSR EW400, and plan to use the money toward eventually getting an 88-key weighted hammer action keyboard. I had been looking at the old Yamaha DGX660 because of its sound, its sequencer, and its ability to record wav files directly to a USB stick inserted in the front of the instrument, and then I remembered the Casio Privia PX560. Way better than the Yamaha DGX660, but costs $400 more. Then I checked out the Casio Privia PX360. Way better than the Yamaha, and only $100 more. So, that's the front runner so far. Am also considering the Casio CGP700, as it seems to be comparable to the PX360 -- so now am going to the appropriate forum(s) here to ask about those. Stay safe and well everybody. Will be back here with intermittent progress reports, and hopefully some short videos of playing the WK7600 with synced audio -- or at least some short audio files made with SD card. (Have to check on that. Might end up just putting them on YouTube and linking to them here.)

Wow, I didn't realize that it's been over 2.5 months since I last posted here. I estimate that I've only spent about 50 hours on the WK7600 since then. Definitely not enough, but I have a few excuses ... Anyway, despite my practice shortcomings, I've managed to learn some useful things re the WK7600, and have a bunch of .wav files. Did a lot with the SD card, then, after I changed the room setup a few times, I did some recordings using a Behringer Line2USB (from keyboard 1/4" left and right line outputs on the WK7600 to desktop computer USB). I think I can hear a very slight difference, maybe. Next, will record from the 1/4" left and right line outputs to the desktop computer line input as soon as I get the proper cable for that. Next thing after that to get is a pair of decent studio headphones. Not too expensive. Been considering Sennheiser HD280 Pro, Sony MDR 7506, Audio Technica ATH-M50, and a few others. Then a decent pair of small room (nearfield?) powered studio speakers. Any comments/opinions on that sort of stuff (or anything for that matter) is welcomed. Still haven't explored many of the voices, or hardly any of the styles/rhythms, to any great extent, so that will be fun. And all of its other capabilities. Lots to learn. So far it's been a very positive experience with the WK7600. The keys seem to have loosened a bit, but for me it makes no difference. It hasn't changed the feel of the keys when playing, any sounds they might make are not recorded by the sequencer or when I record directly to the computer, and I don't play particularly soft music anyway. The WK7600 feels a lot different (to me) than the Yamaha PSR EW400 to play. At first, I didn't like it as well, but now I like it better. One other thing, I really like the Casio SP20 sustain pedal -- mainly because it stays put on my tile floor when I'm pressing it, but it works good too.

Ok, disregarding my previous posting mistake, thanks very much for the very informative replies. I can't say helpful yet, because I'm not sure I understand everything that was written. Anyway, the next thing I'm going to do is buy a SD card and do some recording, and then see if I can understand things a bit better. Should have some SD card recordings done by this evening. Either I'll have a handle on this by then, or I'll have more questions, or both, or whatever. Playing tennis in between, so maybe that will sharpen my mind a bit. Thanks again for the timely replies!

I hit quote by mistake. How to cancel or delete? Deleted the quoted stuff, but just want to cancel and start over or delete this post.

T, I will be doing audio recording (Casio format) direct to an SD card on the WK7600, then converting to .wav using the Casio Data Manager 6.1 (CDM 6.1) software. I was unable to get a definitive answer regarding the exact contents of Casio proprietary audio files (.cms). Pertaining to recording sequencer playback only, my current guess is that what's being written to the SD card is a combination of the relevant midi instruction data and the sound samples (in what form?) of the relevant instrument(s) contained in the WK7600. There's no reason for Casio to digitally sample electrical waveforms when it can just transfer data already contained within its memory to the SD card. Of course, that necessitates converting what's on the SD card to a format (.wav) that can be played on my computer and modified with my editing software. Depending on how good the conversion software is, I would suppose that it's possible to get the truest fidelity to what I hear coming from the WK7600's speakers or my headphones using the SD card method [WK7600 >>> SD card (midi instructions + WK7600 internal audio samples) >>> convert to .wav using CDM 6.1], as opposed to recording via the line-out method [WK7600 line-out >>> computer line-in >>> convert to .wav using audio recorder/editor]. What does "original recording would be at 42 kHz" refer to? Does the SD card method (pertaining to recording sequencer playback only) involve digital sampling? I'll get back to this thread after I've done a few SD card recordings, and/or learned something new about this, or whatever.

Update on learning to use the WK7600: Been through most of the piano, electric piano, and organ tones, some of which I like a lot. Have recorded a couple of 3-part (track) pieces and several single track ones. All piano stuff so far. Learned how to listen to and record single tracks by themselves in a multi-track 'song' -- which is good for me because I will be using the WK7600 mainly to record short, one-track, improvs and ideas. And, I'll be able to accumulate up to 80 separate pieces on the WK7600 before I have to start clearing tracks to make room for more. As far as I can tell, the only ways to record sequencer playback (or any WK7600 sound) audio to .wav (i.e., lossless) file format are, 1. via the line-out (recommended) or phones (not recommended) jacks on the WK7600 to the line-in jack on the computer, or 2. using Behringer LINE2USB (or some other A>D converter) from the WK7600 line-out jacks to a USB input. I suppose I might be able to record .wav files using my Android LG phone, but haven't experimented with that yet. Anyway, that would have to go to the phone's combination headphone/microphone 1/8 in. jack using a splitter with a TRRS plug, so I would expect lower quality than using the line-in on the computer. But eventually I'll check that out. Getting more into the mixer stuff lately. Along with that, I will learn more about modifying tones. I think that I probably won't use much of the sequencer editing capabilities of the keyboard. But I don't know for sure yet. Depends on whether I want to keep something as an "improv", and also how much ensemble stuff I do. I'll upload a few very short pieces (practice improvs, ideas, etc.)with my next post here. I see below that the forum provides an easy way to do that. Very cool! Thanks for this forums and the helpful members. Lots of good info!!

Sorry for the long delay in replying. I spent most of the first 2 weeks just getting used to the feel of the keys, and getting up to speed after being used to the EW400's organ-style keyboard for almost a year. At first, I didn't like the main piano voice on the WK7600, but it kind of grew on me. Also, I've learned how to tweak it (and other voices) toward something I like better than the factory default settings. The past couple of days I've mostly been practicing the song sequencer and recording operations, but I intend, very soon, to go back to the beginning of the manual and follow it to the end (of course this still puts me on a somewhat convoluted path, but at the moment I don't have any ideas about how they might have done a better manual, or keyboard, organization). Anyway, bottom line is that I'm glad I bought it, am having fun with it, and have come to think that I can, eventually, learn absolutely everything that this keyboard is capable of. I'll upload some .WAVs of practice sessions, song ideas, and such in the near future. Thanks for replying. I continue to read through posts on CasioMusicForums. Good stuff!

Just got my new Casio WK7600 yesterday. Haven't had time to explore it yet, except for going through a bunch of the voices. I anticipate that I'll have lots of questions about this keyboard for the more knowledgeable members. I plan to set aside a three hour block of time each day for study and practice on it. The feel of the keys is definitely different than my Yamaha PSR EW400. The WK7600 is just a little bit more like a piano feel, while the PSR EW400 is more like an organ feel. I like them both. I'll be able to do things on the WK7600 that I can't do on the EW400. I just hope that the manual isn't too convoluted, and that I don't get discouraged. I know it's going to be a steep learning curve for me. What I'm looking at for next upgrade is the Privia Pro PX560 and similar keyboards, with a more piano-like feel. Anyway, I'm very psyched about embarking on this new musical adventure with the WK7600. I also got the Casio sustain pedal for it, and a dust cover. Any preliminary suggestions about this keyboard are appreciated.

I very much enjoyed your variation(s) on this beautiful tune. Thanks for posting.

I enjoyed this. Well done. Thanks for posting.

Wow, good stuff! Being an instrumentalist, I mostly focused on the music. Though I did read through your intro and paid attention to any words that appeared on screen. Dracomeramedy definitely. I'm doing this in installments. Very enjoyable. Thanks for posting.

Good music, good playing. I enjoyed this. You have a nice setup there with the two keyboards.

I enjoyed listening to this. Nice work! Thanks for posting. The Privias are great keyboards. I had a PX780 a while back. Sold it to finance an arranger keyboard that I could actually carry around. Recently I bought a new WK7600, which should arrive this Tuesday. I'm very psyched! Back to your tune, some of the harmonies that you did there were very cool. The piano voice tone is very good, as are all the other tones. I hope to get something like the PX560 (maybe the PX560 itself) in the not too distant future with the Tri-Sensor Scaled Hammer Action II keyboard, which I'll bet feels a lot like an acoustic piano.

Thank you Brad Saucier! I'm pretty sure that it was the WK-3000 that I had, and that I did a few songs on. A great keyboard! However, I just wasn't up to the steep learning curve that the instrument's prodigious capabilities presented. Plus, the manual was a bit convoluted for me. The reason I want to be fairly sure which one I did the songs on is because it's required to name the instrument in order to post tunes.

I think I found the answer. I will be able to record the sequencer tune to the SD card as a Casio proprietary audio file (but not as a .wav file), which I will be able to convert to .wav format on my computer using Casio's Data Manager 6.1. I am now wondering about Casio's proprietary audio file format. Will post here what I find out. Ok, I'm pretty sure that the SD card can't record audio in the .wav format, no matter if the recording is done directly to the card, bypassing the sequencer, or from sequencer playback audio. I was unable to find the specs of Casio's proprietary .cms file format. I suspect that it might be a 'lossy' format. Whether I'll be able to hear the difference -- I'll find out when I get the keyboard on Tuesday and experiment with it. The .wav file format which is 16 bit samples at 44.1 kHz will, when played, reproduces an exact copy of the original sound (for all practical purposes anyway). I suspect that Casio chose to go the proprietary audio file format route because it's somewhat less costly, and that it's less costly because it's sample size is smaller and it's sampling at a much lower rate. In any case, I want lossless .wav files, and it appears that the only way I can get the lossless recording of my stuff that the .wav format provides is to hook the keyboard up to my desktop. If Casio's .cms audio files are lossy, then it doesn't matter that they can be converted to the .wav format, because the resulting .wav files can't contain more audio data than the .cms files that they're made from. Anyway, we'll see. It's not that big a deal either way, because I like the WK7600 for more important reasons, however it would have been nice to produce lossless .wav files right on the keyboard via the SD card, or a USB stick (but of course that would require the WK7600 to be able to do that internally).

Hi. I will be getting my WK7600 in a few days. Been reading lots of posts. Because of my physical setup (using a desktop rather than laptop computer), I want to record stuff that I've saved and maybe edited via the keyboard's sequencer to an SD card (as an audio .wav file) in the keyboard's card slot. I was under the (maybe mistaken) impression that I could record sequencer song playback audio to the SD card and save it as an audio .wav file. I'll eventually find out (at least I hope I will) as my study of the WK7600 continues, but as I was reading through this thread I figured I'd ask. So, will I be able to save sequencer song audible audio playback to the SD card as a .wav file? Thanks.

Hi. The title says it all. I have some old tunes that I made on either the WK3000 or the WK3200, I think, and I can't remember which. So, if anybody knows when these keyboards first came out and what they cost then, please let me know. Thanks. From that info I think I can figure out which one I had. Didn't have it for long. Loved it, however the manual and keyboard were a bit too difficult for me at the time, so I took it back to the Guitar Center (I think) and got a Yamaha instead. I'm back with Casio, the WK 7600, now after about a 15 year layoff. Hopefully I'll have more patience learning to use the many capabilities of the WK7600 than I had with the model that I had back in whenever (it was the early 2000s, but I don't remember the exact year).

Thank you Joe Muscara. I have stuff on Facebook and YouTube. Haven't tagged or hashtagged anything yet though. If I have any problems I'll just ask the specific site. I'm very excited about my new WK 7600. Supposed to be delivered by Tuesday May 5. Now I'm off to the WK 7600 forum. Thanks again!

This is very good. Thanks. I've been clicking on the pictures. Good stuff. One thing though, I don't know what "Tag us, @Casiomusicgear and add #wehearyou", means or refers to.