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Leon You can't - not directly, at least ! The Casio CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX Song Sequencer will NOT import MIDI files. It will only load/play/edit/save Casio proprietary Song Sequencer files in the .CMS file format. Neither will it record MIDI data from external sources (eg. from a computer DAW or sequencer program, or from an external hardware sequencer). Essentially, it is totally self contained and isolated - recording only MIDI data that is generated within the keyboard, itself. However, the MIDI File "PLAYER" WILL play MIDI Files, with a .MID file extension, that have been copied to the MUSICDAT folder on the SD Card. The same applies to the Pattern Sequencer of the CTK/WK-7XXX models. It will only load/play/edit/save Casio proprietary Rhythm files in the .AC7 Rhythm file format, as well as importing Rhythm files from the older (WK-3XXX, etc.) models in the older .CKF and .Z00 Rhythm file formats, which it automaticlly converts to the new .AC7 Rhythm file format, as it imports them. The Casio IDES-4 Data Manager software for the older CTK/WK models contains a standalone converter module that will convert Standard MIDI Files to the older .CKF Rhythm files, which can then be imported into the newer models, but its use can be a bit involved and tedious, and it often produces less than desireable results. You can download a copy of IDES-4 from: http://music.casio.com/e/data_ex4/before.html#software Click on the "Ides40-c.exe" link. That gets the entire package in a single download. The other links are for downloading it in chunks for slow dial-up systems. Be sure to also download the Application Manual from the link higher up on the page. Once you have it installed, the module you are interested in is the "Rhythm Converter" module. Here are links to several other threads on this forum about this topic: http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/4281-software-to-create-patterns-for-wk-7500/ http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/12070-reggae-drum-tracks-from-midi-files-for-7600/&do=findComment&comment=32902 http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/8975-loading-an-edited-rhythm-part-from-an-external-midi-to-the-ctk7200-keyboard/&do=findComment&comment=27931 http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/6236-rhythm-conversion-yamaha-to-casio/&page=1 Also, do not be mislead by the Casio "Standard MIDI FIle Converter" that can be found on various Casio websites. It is for converting SMF's to the Casio .CM2 Song Recorder format for the lower end Casio keyboard models. It will NOT do what you are looking for. Good luck ! Regards, Ted

If you have not already done so, you might want to read through this previous thread on this topic: http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/8974-sp-33-cgp-700-issues/

Tom I am not sure why you reposted this. Were you making a statement or asking a question ? Did you get the WK-7600 yet ? Ted

The following re-post, dated August 01, 2018, replaces the original post, dated June 23, 2016, in its entirity, to correct erroneous information in the original post: Sam The CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX Song Sequencer saves song data to a .CMS file. It IS a MIDI file, but it is a Casio proprietary MIDI file, because it has some very unique features. Casio touts the Song Sequencer as a 17 track sequencer - 16 data tracks and a SYSTEM Track, but then they drop the ball and do not fully explain what that SYSTEM Track is really all about. Tracks 1 through 16 are just regular old hardware sequencer tracks, the same as any other 16 track hardware sequencer. These are referred to in the manual as the "B" Tracks. Their use is pretty much at the discretion of the user for "track-at-a-time' (Individual Track) recording [Page E-67], but Track 17, that SYSTEM Track is something really special. It is like what we call a Type-0 MIDI file. It contains an additional 16 virtual tracks. These are referred to as the "A" Tracks and are pre-assigned by the keyboard's operating system to the recording of all data associated with the Easy RECord function [Page E-63] - including the UPPER-1, UPPER-2 (LAYER), LOWER (SPLIT), HARMONY, and all Auto-accompaniment RHYTHM parts. That is to say, the virtual "A" Tracks are solely responsible for the recording of all aspects of an Auto-accompaniment ("One--Man-Bander") performance. See the chart in the right hand column of Page E-65 of the manual for the various track assignments. So the Song Sequencer is actually a 32 track sequencer and generates a 32 track MIDI (.CMS) Song file. This is in keeping with, and explains the reason for, the keyboard's 32 channel MIXER feature. Those 32 tracks will be maintained separate and intact as long as they remain within the .CMS file, but when we try to export all of that data to a Standard MIDI FILE (SMF) we run into a problem. The MIDI Standard specifies only 16 tracks in an SMF, so something has to give. When we convert the .CMS file to an SMF, the virtual "A" Track data is extracted to the real "B" Tracks, the virtual "A" Track data is discarded, and the real "B" Tracks with the extracted data are written to an SMF in the MUSICDAT folder on an SD Card. That file can then be uploaded to a computer with the Data Manager software or just physically ported to the SD Card reader slot on the computer, but the actual process is a little more convoluted than that. The real "B" Tracks are there for simple ad-hoc individual track recording or for the user to add any additional tracks to an original "A" Track recording, because the "A" Track (SYSTEM Track) recording is a one-shot "erase as it records" process. Aside from some very basic edits, any attempt to add anything to an existing "A" Track recording will result in total erasure of ALL existing data on ALL "A" Tracks (A-01 thru A16). Added tracks have to go on the "B" Tracks. So, the "B" Tracks are necessary, and we therefore have to deal with them, if we want to convert our 32 track CMS Song file to a 16 track SMF. Oddly enough, at extraction/conversion time the "B" Tracks have priority. By default, they are all set to ON in the MIXER panel. Any "B" Track that is ON in the MIXER panel at extraction/conversion time will NOT accept extracted data from its correspondingly numbered "A" Track. If you have not used any "B" Tracks, the conversion process is simple, just go into the MIXER panel, turn OFF ALL the "B" Tracks and run your conversion, but if you have used any "B" Tracks, you may have to move that data around to avoid sacrificing any data. So what "B" Tracks are safe to use? Any of them, if you have not recorded any "A" Track data. Otherwise: during normal "live" play, Tracks A1, A2, and A3 are used for UPPER-1, UPPER-2 (LAYER), and LOWER (SPLIT) data respectively, but during the record process, those functions are transferred to Tracks A5, A6, and A7, so in the finished recording, Tracks A1, A2, and A3 will normally be empty, meaning that Tracks B1, B2 and B3 should be available for use. If you do not use Auto-Harmonize, Track A4 will be empty. If you do not use LAYER or SPLIT, Tracks A6 and A7 will be empty. Track A9 is for non-drum percussive sounds, and is not used by most Rhythms, so it most likely will be empty. So, all of this means that Tracks B1, B2, B3, B4, B6, B7 and B9 might POSSIBLY be available for use, while any other "B" Track use may require the sacrifice of important "A" Track Auto-accompaniment data. This caveat is covered in the NOTE at the bottom of the left hand column of Page 104.  All page references above are for the CTK-6200 manual. Now, once you have your converted SMF MIDI file and have ported it to your computer, it will certainly not sound like your CTK-6200. What it will sound like all depends on what VST sound module you are running on your computer. If it is a standard PC, that will most likely be the Microsoft Wavetable Synth, which will certainly not sound anything like the CTK-6200's sound engine. Since your CTK-6200 does not have an audio record feature, the only way to get your exact CTK-6200 sound onto your PC is to connect its Line Out jacks to your PC's Line In jack with the appropriate cables and adapters and record its audio output to an audio file on your computer's hard drive with something like Audacity. I chose Audacity because it is about the simplest audio recording package and is free as long as you are using only its basic audio recording features. Alternatives would be a USB-Audio interface between the keyboard and the computer or a standalone recorder from Tascam, Fostex, etc. You can download Audacity from: http://www.audacityteam.org/ Hope this helps. Good luck ! Regards, Ted

Mark You have to assign a tone to the LOWER zone that has ROTARY as its DSP type. Power your keyboard on and press the Drawbar Organ (L) button. That assigns the Drawbar Organ Tone (L:001) across the entire keyboard. Turn ROTARY on fast (furthest left button - blue light on). Veryify that you have fast rotary across the entire keyboard. Now SPLIT the keyboard. A bass tone will be assigned to the LOWER zone by default. Assign the same tone (L:001) to the LOWER zone as for the UPPER zone and raise it two octaves, so that it doesn't growl at you. Most of the time when you turn SPLIT on and off, it knocks ROTARY back to slow. If it did here, turn it back on fast. Now, play the UPPER zone and note that you no longer have rotary. Now play the LOWER zone and note that ROTARY is in that zone. If you want a lower tone that does not use rotary by default, you will have to edit it to add ROTARY DSP to it and save it as a USER TONE. Now turn SPLIT off, turn ROTARY back on fast, and verify that it is across the entire keyboard. There is a rationale to all of this. These are moderately priced keyboards, so they do not have extravagant DSP capabilities. DSP is assigned on a tone-by-tone basis, and you can only have one DSP incidence active at a time. When SPLIT is on, the UPPER and LOWER tones are two separate tones, even though they may be using the same "sound", they are still two separate tones. To apply ROTARY to both would be two active incidences of DSP, which we can not have. So ROTARY defaults to the LOWER zone, the idea being that loss of ROTARY on single or dual notes in the UPPER registry would not be as noticeable as long as it was being supplied by the left hand chord drone as played by the "average" player. Yes, it would have been nice if the user could assign the ROTARY to either UPPER or LOWER, but that would add another display menu page and up the manufacturing costs. The only exception to the above limitation is REVERB. REVERB is a stand-alone effect. You can have REVERB along with any other effect, but CHORUS is a regular DSP type, so you can not have CHORUS along with any other effect, except REVERB, of course. Enjoy ! Ted

That is essentially correct, but there is no registration "editor". You just bring up the one you want to change ("edit"), make the changes you want, and just re-save it to the same Bank and Registration number, and you can not delete a registration. You just over-write an un-needed/unused one when you add a new one. The jeopardy you are in, if you do not back them up to a computer, is that if the keyboard ever locks up on you and you have to do a factory reset, you will lose ALL of your user files. This could represent a lot of time and effort.

Under the section titled "To play the keyboard" at the top of the left hand column of Page E-19 in the manual, see the note under item 4: "The keyboard’s initial power on default setting is Song Bank Mode. The tone that is initially assigned to the keyboard is 096 FLUTE 1, which is the tone used by Song Bank tune number 00." Just press the Piano Bank button once it comes up. http://support.casio.com/pdf/008/lk_55_01_e.pdf

The WK-220 will store up to 32 setup registrations to the keyboard's internal memory. No USB needed for that ! See Pages E48 and E49 of the manual for saving/recalling registrations. If you need more than 32 registrations, you can use the Casio Data Manager 5.0 (NOT 6.1) software to exchange complete registration files (32 registrations each) with a computer attached to the USB port. You can use this same connection to back-up all user data from the keyboard to a computer. See page E62 of the manual. You can download the Data Manager 5.0 software from here: http://support.casio.com/en/support/download.php?cid=008&pid=70

The only device that will "open" or "play" or "run" these "style" files is a Casio CTK or WK keyboard that they were designed for. There is currently no software or app that will do that.

Mark When running the CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX models in SPLIT mode, the rotary effect is transferred to the left hand (Lower) split part. This is part of the basic keyboard design, and can not be changed. An alternative would be an external rotary effects pedal like a Ventilator-2, but those designed specifically for keyboard use get kind of pricey ($200-$400). Guitar rotary effects pedals are much more reasonable, and should sound at least as good as that built into the keyboard. Digitech offers the Ventura Vibe for $150, but there are some available for about $90. Obviously, this could not be used with Auto-accompaniment or onboard drum sounds.

Michael See my reply to your other post on this topic: http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/12356-michaelfree73/&do=getLastComment Regards, Ted

Michael I believe the basic wave samples on the WK-245 and the WK-7600 are the same. What makes the difference is the rest of the sound circuits - the wave shaping sound engine itself, the digital-analog converters, the amplifiers and speakers, and the WK-7600's onboard Equalizer. When I play my WK-225 and then my WK-7500, while using the Auto-accompaniment rhythms, it is hard to tell the difference, especially if I am using an external amp and speakers. Any subtle sound quality difference in the lead (right hand) tones tends to get lost in the mix, but if I am playing solo piano, EP, guitar, horn, etc mode (even with a layered tone) then there is a very distinct advantage to the WK-7500. Since you do not seem to be interested in Auto-accompaniment, I am wondering if you would be better off considering a PX-5S. I think it might be more suited to the professional use you describe, Regards, Ted

Joe Unfortunately, a pedal connected to the CTK/WK-7XXX models can only be assigned to control SUSTAIN, SOSTENUTO, or SOFT as they are applied to the UPPER-1, UPPER-2, LOWER, and AUTO-HARMONIZE tones, or for controlling the Auto-Accompaniment Rhythm ON/OFF. It can not be used to control the ROTARY effect - a bit of an oversight on the part of the Casio design engineers, I am afraid. Also, in case you have not yet noticed, the default Drawbar Organ Tones only provide for Rotary Fast/Slow. They do not provide for real-time control of Rotary ON/OFF. If you want this, you will have to modify existing Drawbar Tones with the TONE EDIT feature, and set the FAST Rate of your choice and a SLOW Rate of ZERO, and save it as a User Drawbar Organ Tone. You can have 50. Using this method of Rotary ON/OFF, you can adjust the Acceleration settings for realistic speed-up/slow-down rates, but obviously, it does not provide for FAST/SLOW and OFF. You can only have any two of the three at a time. While you might be able to use a MIDI pedal for controlling Rotary ON/OFF, since the Casio CTK/WK units have only USB ports, and no 5-pin DIN MIDI-IN/OUT ports, you would have to use either a computer or some type of stand-alone "host" unit (eg. iConnectMIDI2, etc.) as an interface between the keyboard and the pedal. Sorry, I wish I had better news for you on this. Good luck ! Regards, Ted

Posted in error. Please disregard.

Posted in error. Please disregard.

There is no way to convert Tones from the older Casio keyboards to the TN7 format for the newer models, because their sound engines are entirely different, and the wave samples are not transferable. User Rhythms in the CKF/Z00 format from the older models can be loaded, as-is, into the new models. The keyboard will automatically convert the CKF/Z00 format to the new AC7 format. They would do the same with the old preset Rhythms, if there were some way to export them from the old boards, but to my knowledge, there is no way to do that.

You've already guessed it ! You will have to start the file/song name with numerals. If you use two or more digit numerals, then precede the first ten (0 through 9) with zeros (00 - 09 and/or also 000 - 099), otherwise file/song 10 will come right after file/song 1 and file/song 100 will come right after file/song 10, just like with a computer's raw OS file sort.

For the CTK/WK-6XXX models - See Page E-122 of the manual. For the CTK/WK-7XXX models - See Page E-158 of the manual See DSP Type 12 - Rotary in the right hand column of the above pages. The 8 Parameters listed under this heading are the parameters that can be adjusted. Parameters 7 and 8 adjust the Rotary speeds. Parameters 5 and 6 adjust how fast the Rotary speeds up or slows down

You seem to be asking two questions here - one about the expressive playing dynamics and the other about the "natural sustain" of a real piano. Having owned, or currently owning, any number of keyboards, both Arranger and non-Arranger, from various manufacturers, I think I can say, with some degree of certainty, that all of the units in this price range are pretty much on par with one another in that respect. There may be some subtle differences, but those are mostly with convenience features and "overall" sound quality, that would sway a prospective buyer one way or the other. Now, to take your concerns separately, if expressive playing dynamics are critical to you, then you are not only looking in the wrong price range, you are looking at the wrong type of devices. All non-weighted, non-hammer action, "springy" synth-type keyboard actions have minimal expressive playing dynamics. Semi-weighted and weighted, but non-hammer action, key actions can help a bit, but the improvement is minimal. What I am saying is, if you are looking at synth-type keyboard actions, then you are obviously not overly concerned about realistic expressive playing dynamics. While there may be differences in the models in this price range, they would be hardly discernible. Realistic "natural sustain" in electronic keyboards is mostly a function of the basic wave sample size - the bigger the wave sample size, the more realistic the sound - including the "natural sustain", but the bigger the wave sample size, the more memory required to store it. Larger memory equates to larger production costs, and from a manufacturer's stand point, their target market in this price range is not overly concerned with these two items, so they go with small wave samples in less memory, and divert those production costs into what they perceive as more desirable features (for this target market), such as more knobs, and sliders, and tones, and rhythms, etc. If I can insert a parable at this point: prospective buyers looking at 500 horsepower "muscle cars" are not normally overly concerned about fuel economy, so the manufacturer is also not overly concerned about it - for this particular model. By the same token, those looking for an economic auto are not normally overly concerned about horsepower and zero-to-sixty times, so neither is the manufacturer - for these particular models. The two items of concern that you have mentioned are normally only noticeable in "quiet" venues - concerts, recitals, maybe even serious jazz bistros, etc, but those are not the venues that these keyboards were designed for. Instead, they were designed for relatively "noisy" venues - the biggest source of that "noise" is the keyboard itself - its Auto-accompaniment section. The typical Auto-accompaniment pattern would easily cover-up the two items of your concern. It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that purchase an Arranger keyboard, and then try to use it as a concert or recital type instrument, and end up being thoroughly disappointed and usually overly critical of the manufacturer - much the same as those who purchase an Arranger keyboard and expect it to double as a full-featured MIDI Controller, and then belittle the keyboard and its manufacturer when it turns out to be the crippled compromise that it was doomed to be at the outset. Why not just buy the instrument that matches the need/expectation to begin with? I do not normally get involved in making recommendations, because over the years, I have learned that what I consider acceptable/unacceptable very seldom agrees with what someone else considers acceptable/unacceptable, particularly if they are looking for iron-clad advice, but since you have mentioned two particular items, I will make an exception. If you are absolutely locked-in to this price range, then base your decision on other items - playing conveniences, overall sound quality, etc, as I do not think you will find much difference in the areas of your concern. If you are not locked-in to this price range, then I strongly suggest that you post your question over in the Privia (PX) section of this forum to get the impressions of those owner/members, but bear in mind that those are different devices. The flagship model (PX-5S) there is NOT an Arranger keyboard by any means. It has no Auto-accompaniment features, what-so-ever, and those models that do have some Auto-accompaniment features still do not have the full Arranger functions of the CTK/WK models. Everything is a trade-off. One thing to keep in mind, as far as "natural" sustain, if the keyboard you buy has sufficient tone editing capabilities (the WK-6600 DOES), you can offset a "too short" natural sustain by editing the tone to extend its "release" time a bit, but this has it limitations. You will normally reach the point of a "full sustain pedal" sound before reaching the point of "realistic" natural sustain, but with some tedious tweaking, it can improve things a bit. Whatever your decision, I recommend avoiding, at all cost, making any purchase without first playing any prospective unit to see if it "fits" you. If this is just not possible, then try to deal with a retailer/supplier with a liberal return policy, so that you can return your purchase, if you are not satisfied. Good luck !

In the past, Casio has made aftermarket rhythm files available for free download, but to my knowledge, they have never done so with any of the preset rhythm files. I assume this is to protect their respective sales from one model line to the next. You can download 50 new aftermarket rhythm files for the new CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX models from: http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/emi/rhythmsspecial/ (The 50 Pack includes the 10 Pack Rhythms.) You can also download over 100 aftermarket rhythm files for the older models from: http://music.casio.com/e/data_ex4/rhythm.html/ (Yes! They work fine on the new models.)

The Arpeggiator generates a melodic pattern from chords that you play on the keyboard. While it is normally used for right hand play, it can be assigned to the Lower zone and used to generate an automatic bass pattern, when the keyboard is split. When Auto-accompaniment is activated, the tempo of the Arpeggiator will be sync'd with the tempo of the Accompaniment Rhythm. While it can be used with any music genre, it is currently most popular with the DJ/Dance/Club genre. I have included links to several YouTube demos that show arpeggiators in action. Since there are only a couple of very brief demos for the Casio models, I have included several Yamaha demos to give a better overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPzboOlNHMs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvXKFnAX0h4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CLiCzhq6cY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKK5gpoTZ10 When a delay dsp effect is applied to the arpeggiated sound, and the delay time is manually adjusted to match the tempo (The Casio CTK/WK models do not provide for automatically syncing the delay time to the tempo.), and the chord timing played properly, the delayed sound will tend to take on a "life" of its own - almost like a counter-melody to the original arpeggiated sound. Since you have mentioned in another post that you have an iPad, if you are interested in getting into arp based music, I would strongly recommend the Yamaha Synth Arp and Drum Pad app. It will put just about any "on-board" arpeggiator completely to shame. Besides its huge library of arp patterns, it will allow you to create your own - something that most moderately priced keyboards do not provide for. The app's MIDI clock can be sync'd with the keyboard's in order to keep everything in time.

Find the "TONE" buttons to the right of the display screen. Press the K (GM/DRUMS) button. The display will indicate TONE K:001 (GM PIANO). Rotate the data wheel clockwise to TONE K:129 (StandardSet1). You now have drum kit StandardSet1 assigned to the keys. Play the keyboard and you will hear drum sounds. The symbol stenciled above each key indicates the type of drum sound assigned to that key. As you continue to rotate the data wheel clockwise or to press the + (YES} button, you will assign different drum sets (kits) to the keys, each with its own unique sounds.

Akarsh The CTK-850IN can save MIDI data to an SD memory card or output MIDI data from its USB port to a computer, but MIDI data is exactly that - just data. It is not "sound" (audio) by any means. Per your stated criteria: "without changing its sound quality, to any external device", MIDI data can only do this if it is imported into exactly the same make and model as the source of the data; in this case - another CTK-850IN, as only another CTK-850IN would have the CTK-850IN's sound engine. No other MIDI sound module would produce exactly the same sound. So, for you, that leaves only audio, but the CTK-850IN does not have the capability of saving its output to an audio file for export, either internally or to an SD memory card. Therefore, you will need to connect its PHONES/OUTPUT jack to a computer's MIC/LINE-IN jack or to a computer audio interface unit with the appropriate adapter cable(s) and record its output with DAW or audio recording software. An alternative would be to connect its PHONES/OUTPUT jack to an external recording device - here again with the appropriate adapter cable(s): CTK-850IN (PHONES/OUTPUT) -----> Computer MIC/LINE-IN (Computer running DAW or audio recording software) CTK-850IN (PHONES/OUTPUT) -----> Audio Interface Unit -----> Computer USB port (Computer running DAW or audio recording software) CTK-850IN (PHONES/OUTPUT) -----> External recording device (preferably digital) In all three of the above cases, the CTK-850IN's PHONES/OUTPUT level is considerably higher than that required by most recording devices, so you would need to keep its main volume control at a fairly low level to prevent over-driving the recording device's input. It also cuts off the speakers, so would require using the recording device's output as an audible monitor. For a computer, depending on its processor's capabilities, there could be a disturbing latency delay between the time a key is pressed and the output is heard, so I would recommend starting with the first arrangement. For this, you would need only an inexpensive 1/4" (6.35mm) to 1/8" (3.5mm) adapter cable: http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-Cable-CMS110-inch-Adapter/dp/B000068O36/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1461024708&sr=8-1&keywords=1%2F8+to+1%2F4+stereo+cable If you do not already have DAW software, I would recommend Audacity, as the basic version is available as a free download, and is very popular, so peer-to-peer support is readily available: https://sourceforge.net/projects/audacity/ If you do not experience latency with this setup, then you should be able to move on to an audio interface unit (with appropriate drivers) in the future, for a more professional setup, without fear of latency: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UCA222?utm_source=MSN&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=none&utm_term=Iduca222&creative=9338692676&device=c&matchtype={MatchType} http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-TRS-202-inch-Insert-Cable/dp/B000068O1K/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1461027983&sr=8-5&keywords=1%2F4+inch+rca If you do experience latency problems that can not be resolved with selection of proper drivers, your choice would be to move to a computer with higher processing power (speed), or to a zero-latency external recording device: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BEGS5NI/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1944687642&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0002D0IM0&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0RENKW7246JWTMHSA9JE An advantage to an external recorder is that most can be battery powered, if necessary, to eliminate the USB ground hum that is sometimes present when connecting keyboards to audio interface units. A less expensive option would be to record your play to the CTK-850IN's internal memory with the Song Recorder (Casio-MIDI) with no latency, and then play that back as you record the keyboard's output with one of the first two set ups. Any latency at this point would be of no consequence, as you would not be trying to play and listen to the output at the same time. Best of luck with this ! Regards, Ted

Brandon With respect to the driver, the WK-6500 does not download anything to the computer. The driver is already built-in to the computer's operating system. What operating system is your computer using ? Are you powering the WK-6500 on AFTER you connect it to the computer ?

Me, too ! But at this rate, I don't think we are going to do much convincing. I would like to see Stephen Fortner do a video review on the MZ-X500 like he did for the Roland Jupiter-50. He did that because the JP-50 and 80 were such different offerings. It looks like we have three of four of those this year.