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Sorry, Josh, but no !  That is the downside of what you are trying to do.  Those setting adjustments must be made on a "per setup" basis - either manually each time you want to use them or by setting each one of them up ahead of time and saving them to a registration.  The global volume setting only goes down to the point of accompaniment volume vs main volume.  It does not go down to the individual voice levels (dual vs split vs harmony vs rhythm voices).  That is considered a mixer function, which you have already discovered, can not be saved globally.  Many of the higher end arranger keyboards DO allow what you are talking about.  On them, when you create a registration, you can determine which items/parameters change when you change voices, rhythms, etc and which items are fixed - a very handy feature.  The closest the CTK/WK's get to this are the Reg Filters which determine whether the accompaniment and/or scalar settings are called up when a reg is selected.  That's pretty coarse (sparse) filtering.  For you - if you are using one of the CTK/WK-7000 series boards, at least you have 16 banks of 6 registrations each for a total of 96, but if you are using one of the 6000 series boards, you only have 8 banks of 4 each for a total of 32.  For what you are trying to do, things could get a bit tight with that figure.  By the way, for future reference, which board do you have ? 

Wish I had some better news for you.  I am not a big reg user, but perhaps another user, who is,  will pop in here and give you some pointers on most efficient setup and use of what regs you do have.

Best of luck !

ctk7200user

I can not believe this.  This is now, at least the third thread on this forum where you have done nothing but bash Casio and the CTK-7200.  I have already suggested that, if you hate Casio and the CTK-7200 so much, why do you not simply return the keyboard, get a refund, and go find something that suits you, if that is possible.  I know, you consider yourself a DESIGN Professional who owes it to the world to save it from itself and expose Casio and all of their junk for what they are, but you seem to have ignored my response to your criticisms in the WK-7500 sub-forum and just migrated to here and start all over again.  You are so busy bashing just about everything, I wonder where you expect to find the time to create your "studio album".  You even started out on this forum criticizing it because you thought it needed to be customized FOR YOU.  From what I have seen so far, I have to wonder what you are really doing here on this forum and what your real intent is.

For others here, who might be wondering what I am referring to, see the following threads:

http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/5154-bad-things-about-the-ctk-7200/

http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/370-wk7600-easy-way-to-save-and-play/

http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/4464-the-bad-things-about-the-wk-7500/

Norm

Once you have the recording "basics" down, come back if you have questions on the more advanced features.

Good luck !

ctk7200user

You have already stated in the Casio General Discussion sub-forum that in your opinion the 7200/7600 have significant differences that warrant them their own sub-forums.  I am inclined to agree with that, providing that we do not make the overall forum unmanageable for the admin folks by generating a new sub-forum every time a new model comes out.  However, I do strongly believe that if you were to take the time to review existing threads in the various existing sub-forums on both the "old" and "new" models, you would find that they have more in common than you realize and that there is a wealth of information to be learned there that is applicable to all of the models.

Drag and drop via USB is ONLY not possible with AUDIO files.  All other files can be transferred via drag and drop, and even at that, drag and drop is possible even on AUDIO files, once the SD Card is installed in the PC's card reader.

Norm

The WK-7500/7600 and CTK-7000/7200 offer two methods of recording your performances.  They will record them as AUDIO files or as SONG SEQUENCER files (a form of MIDI file).  These two methods are completely separate processes which use entirely different technologies and have absolutely nothing to do with one another.  If you have not already done so, you should format your SD Card in the keyboard.  While this can be done on a computer, it is best done on the keyboard to ensure the proper type of format (particularly for AUDIO recording) and to ensure that the required MUSICDAT folder gets created properly.

If you want to record a performance with the AUDIO recorder, set up the keyboard the way you want it (voices, splits, layers, rhythm, tempo, volumes, etc) and press the AUDIO RECORD button.  The AUDIO RECORDER button begins flashing and the AUDIO RECORDER goes into standby mode.  Recording will begin when you begin to play.  The display will show [FILE]-----1 and CASIOWV 1.  If the file number has an asterisk in front of it, it means that data has already been recorded to that file.  If you want to overwrite it, just proceed, otherwise, use the data wheel or -/+ keys to select a different file number (up to 5).  Begin playing your performance.  When finished, press the AUDIO RECORD button to stop recording.  If you chose to overwrite existing data, the keyboard will now ask you to confirm that.  Your performance will be saved as a Casio proprietary audio file directly to a hidden partition on the SD Card.  No internal keyboard user memory is involved in the AUDIO RECORD process.  You can replay your AUDIO recordings by pressing the AUDIO PLAY button, selecting the desired file with the data wheel or -/+ buttons and pressing the START/STOP button.  This is strictly a one-shot, one-and-done, process.  You can not edit or add to or delete from this file.  The Casio AUDIO RECORD process is an ERASE-WHILE-RECORDING process.  Any attempt to edit or rerecord any part of the file will result in all previously recorded data being erased in its entirety.  You may transfer your AUDIO files and convert them to standard WAV files on a computer, but the keyboard can not transfer them via the USB connection.  You will need to physically port the SD Card to the card reader on your computer and access and convert them with the Data Manager 6.X software.  As I stated earlier, these files are stored in a hidden partition on the SD Card, so Windows can not even "see" them, much less access them directly.  You can download the Data Manager 6.1 software from:

http://support.casio.com/en/support/download.php?cid=008&pid=20

If you would prefer to record your performances in a manner so that you can correct/edit them or add additional tracks, then you want to make a SONG SEQUENCER recording, but we must now make a distinction between the PATTERN SEQUENCER and the SONG SEQUENCER.  The PATTERN SEQUENCER is for creating/editing rhythm patterns.  Here again, these two sequencers have nothing to do with one another other than the fact that they share the RECORD ( N O T  the AUDIO RECORD ) button in common, so you must select either the PATTERN or SONG mode by pressing the proper sequencer button before pressing the RECORD button.

So, to begin, set up the keyboard the way you want it (voices, splits, layers, rhythm, tempo, volumes, etc) and press the SONG SEQUENCER button.  Use the data wheel or -/+ buttons to select a file number.  Any file number preceded by an asterisk already has data stored in it.  If you want to overwrite it, then proceed, otherwise select a different file number (up to 5), then press the RECORD ( N O T  the AUDIO RECORD ) button. You must use all due caution here, as unlike the AUDIO RECORD process, there is no "confirm" message on overwrite, so easily erasing previously recorded data is a strong possibility.  As soon as the RECORD button is pressed, the SONG SEQUENCER goes into standby mode.  Recording will commence as soon as you begin to play.  When finished, press the START/STOP button to end recording.  Your performance will be saved as a Casio proprietary CMS file in the keyboard's internal User memory and the light in the RECORD button goes out after a few seconds.  You may then use the keyboard's FUNCTION menu to save it the SD Card as a CMS file or as a Standard MIDI File (SMF) with a ".mid" file extension and then transfer it to your computer via the USB connection with the Data Manage software.  Once you have gained a little experience with the SONG SEQUENCER, you can use it to correct/edit your performances and even add additional tracks or delete existing tracks.

Best of luck with your endeavors and enjoy that new WK-7600.

Vorbis

Are you trying to save your mixer settings as part of a recorded song or to set them for real-time play ?  If you are trying to save them as part of a recorded song, then you need to use the "Panel Record" feature as described by Jared Beaney above in the second entry in this thread.  If you are trying to save them for quick/easy recall as a setup for real-time play, then you need to set up the keyboard with all the settings you want to recall, including the mixer settings and then save it as a registration.  Refer to the section in the manual on registrations.  That will be Pages 66, 67, and 163. if you are asking about the CTK-7000/WK-7500.  In the chart on Page 163, any item with a circle in Column #2 is saved as part of a registration,  The very last section of that chart shows the mixer parameters that are saved as part of a registration.

Good luck !

adimito

Start with the keyboard powered OFF, so that we know that we are both starting at the same place.

Power the keyboard ON.

Press the FUNCTION button once to bring up Page 1/2 of the FUNCTION menu.

Press the RIGHT ARROW ( > ) button once to go to Page 2/2 of the FUNCTION menu.

If the top item (Volume) is not highlighted (selected) with a large blue dot to its left, use the UP/DOWN arrow buttons to select it.

Press the ENTER button once to go to Page 1/2 of the Volume menu.

The Accompaniment Volume is the top item on this menu.  If it is not selected (large blue dot) use the UP/DOWN arrow buttons to select it.

Use the Data Wheel or the + / - buttons to adjust it.

Press the EXIT button twice to go back to the power-on screen.

This setting is covered in the left hand column of Page 99 of the manual.  Adjusting the Accompaniment Volume here (through the FUNCTION menu) maintains the relative volume mix of all the individual parts of the rhythm style.

Good luck !

crazydubwise:

Nice tones, but I apologize that I do not have anything to offer in return.  While I may tweak the presets that I use most often to "fit my own ears", so to speak, I have never had the patience to be a tone designer, and I envy you folks that do.  Because I have nothing to exchange, I seldom download other user's tones.  I only downloaded yours because surfcat1 was having a problem and I wanted to help him.  There is nothing wrong with your tones or zip file.  I was able to load all four tones into both my CTK-7000 and WK-7500 and play them just fine.  I was particularly fond of the Rhodes/Vibe, but really nice work on all four.

Best of luck !

surfcat

See "Supported Data Types" in the lower left column of Page 136 of the manual for valid file extensions for the CTK/WK-6X/7X keyboards.

I do not understand when you say Windows/Explorer will not "open" them.  These are proprietary Casio CTK/WK-6X/7X files readable only by those keyboards.  Windows will not be able to "open" them.  If you mean that Explorer does not "see" them so that you can copy them to an SD Card and load them directly into the keyboard, then there is a problem.  Explorer on both my Vista and Win-7 machines "sees" them just fine.  If you are trying to do this, they will need to go into the MUSICDAT folder on the SD Card.  Do not leave them in the UserData folder when you do that, or the keyboard will not be able to find them.  After you unzip the zip file, you should have the following four Casio files:

Rhodes/Vib.TN7

Theremin.TN7

VOX1.DB7

VOX2 Dist.DB7

Perhaps a better way would be to unzip the zip file to a folder of your choice on your PC.  Connect the keyboard to the PC via USB and bring up the Casio Data Manager 6.1.  Go to the "Preference" tab and browse to that folder with the "User Data File Folder Path" field.  Go back to the "Transfer" tab.  You should now see "Rhodes/Vibe" and "Theremin" in the left hand transfer pane.  Drag those files and drop them onto the User Tone slots of your choice in the right hand pane.  Any existing data (Tones) in those slots will be overwritten by the new tones, so use care when doing this.  Now, go up to the data field with the word "Tone" in it.  Click on the down arrow at the right side of that field to bring up a drop down menu.  Select "Draw Bar Organ".  If you do not see that option and you are running Win-7, then you most likely have Data Manager 6.0 and need to download 6.1.  DM 6.0 did not display that option under win-7.  You should now see "VOX1" and VOX2 DIST in the left hand pane.  Drag and drop like you did with the User Tones to transfer them to the keyboard.

The TN7 files are straight User Tones while the DB7 files are Drawbar Organ User Tones.

Good luck !

Manony

Most likely the rubber contact strip under the keys has a defective section that needs to be replaced.  This is a common problem on older keyboards, but certainly should not be expected on newer units.  If possible, you should return the keyboard to the retailer as soon as possible for a refund.  I would not be comfortable dealing with any retailer that knowingly returns defective merchandise to the shelf for resale unless they state that it is discounted because it is defective.

Good luck !

Swing

I think this is Casio's way of keeping us from becoming our own worst enemies.  The rhythms call up their tones from memory by memory location number not by tone name.  If you were to spend many hours creating any number of User Rhythms using any number of User Tones, and then, at some time in the distant future, delete, alter, or rearrange the order of those User Tones, the Rhythm section would no longer be able to call up the correct tones you had originally designed for them.  The higher end Yamaha PSR and Tyros Arrangers do allow this.  More users than you would ever guess have no end of problems with this, especially the Tyros line which has hard drives where things are more easily moved around and/or deleted.  Some of them never do get it all sorted out and back as it originally was, and have to start over from scratch, and typically blame Yamaha for not providing safeguards against it.  I think Casio just does not want to get into that boat.

Surfcat

What you want to do is covered beginning on Page 111 of the manual - the section entitled "To create a new rhythm from scratch", but there are several pitfalls that the manual doesn't stress or cover very well.

To begin with, if you want to create your own pattern from scratch, you MUST start with an EMPTY User Rhythm slot or CLEAR the existing data from a "busy" User Rhythm slot, otherwise the keyboard assumes you just want to edit existing data and will not allow you to set (or change) the number of measures or the time signature.  This is covered in Steps 1 through 4 on Page 111, but go through them step by step, as they cover other set up items.

So - start with the keyboard powered OFF.

Power the keyboard ON.

Press the "F - USER RHYTHMS" button to select the User Rhythm area.

Use the data wheel to select an EMPTY User Rhythm slot.  The display MUST show "No Data" for that User Rhythm slot, otherwise it has existing data in it, and you will not be able to continue unless you CLEAR it.  Perform the other items in Steps 1 through 4.

When you get to Step 5 (actually Step 4 from Page 109), this is what you will be doing to set the number of measures and time signature:

Press the "PATTERN SEQUENCER" button to bring up the Pattern Sequencer screen.

DO NOT press the RECORD button at any time during this part of the procedure.  The manual will tell you later when to do that.

PRESS AND HOLD the FUNCTION button as you press the PATTERN SEQUENCER button a second time to bring up the EDIT screen for the Pattern Sequencer.

RIGHT ARROW one time to go to Page 2 of the EDIT menu.

DOWN ARROW one time to select "Element Edit" and press ENTER.

This brings you to the menu you have been looking for.

The top option allows you to CLEAR the pattern if necessary, but no need here, as we started with an EMPTY rhythm slot to begin with, but this is where you would CLEAR existing data if you had started with a "busy" User Rhythm slot.

DOWN ARROW one time and use the data wheel or +/- buttons to set the number of measures (up to 16) that you want to record.

DOWN ARROW a second time and set the time signature for your pattern.

Press the EXIT button TWICE to return to the "Pattern Sequencer" page.

Return to Step 6 on Page 111 of the manual and continue with recording your pattern.

Good luck - and - ENJOY !

Jokeyman

I check into this thread every day or so to see how you are doing on getting your XW going again.  I have not updated mine yet, but that has more to do with the fact that I don't have room to rack it up here in the studio at the moment.  Anyway, this evening I was remembering that I had just recently updated the OS on both of my Roland keyboards.  You download the update from the Roland site, copy it into the root directory of a USB flash drive, plug that into the keyboard and power it on as you hold down the correct buttons to start the process.  That's it.  No problems with PC crashes or anti-virus software interference, etc.  The only risk I had with the Jupiter 50 was a possible power failure.  (My UPS gave up the ghost a couple of months ago, and I haven't replaced it yet.), but the Juno-Gi is battery powered, so for it, I didn't even need to worry about power.  Then I remembered that some years ago, when I bought my Yamaha PSR-3000, I had the option to update its OS from a PC download (like the XW's) or by copying the update file into the root directory of a Smart Media Card and update it from there, similar to the Rolands.  When they rolled out Version 6, due to the growing scarcity of Smart Media Cards, Version 6 added the option to upgrade from a USB flash drive (The 3000 had both kinds of connectors.).  Now, this is the important point in this.  That should tell us that the method of update is determined by the Operating System, not by the hardware.  If Yamaha could do it, why can't Casio. We need to get on their case to include in the next update the added option to update from the SD Card.  Since the XW's are battery powered, that should allow for almost 100% safe updates.

Katy

You might want to take a look at these folks.  It looks like they have most of what you are looking for:

http://www.123flashchat.com/html5-chat.html

The only odd thing that piqued my curiosity was a misspelled simple word in their page header, but that kind of inattentive sloppiness seems to be the new norm these days.  We just do not have time to get anything completely right anymore.

Good luck in your quest !

Woody

I am hoping that you do not give up on this and check back in to see this.  If you tried MIDI OX and could not get it to work, I couldn't either.  The MIDI OX port manager itself would see my keyboards just fine, but even though I would select the keyboard, the MIDI-BAR player would still just play to the MS Wavetable Synth.  You asked about WinAmp.  For MIDI files, I have the same problem with it as I do with Media Player, so I use it and Real Player just for audio and video files, not for MIDI files.

Because you and I seem to have similar problems on what will NOT work, I figured if I could find something that DID work, it would probably work for you as well, so I went poking around on the web and came up with something.  It is called vanBasco's Karoke Player, but don't let the name fool you.  It is a MIDI file Karoke player, NOT an AUDIO file Karoke player.  Yes, it has a lyrics screen, but you can turn that off.  The basic front panel screen is quite small (similar to WinAmp) and takes very little space on the desktop while it is running.  I owe you a debt of gratitude on this one.  I have finally found my default MIDI file player.  It will play to any MIDI instrument I have (even the MS Wavetable Synth) without having to load a full blown DAW when I just want to play some music in the background.

vanBasco's wares are highly thought of by the folks on the UK Yamaha Arranger forums, so you can feel safe downloading them.  If you do decide to try it, its install program is highly respectful of your security and will not challenge it, so you will probably have to run the install as an "administrator", or the install will abort.  The first time you run it, click on the little musical note in the upper left corner to bring up the setup menu.  Uncheck any of the accessory windows that you do not want to pop up when the main program opens and then click on setup.  From the MIDI tab, click on the MIDI device down arrow and select your keyboard.  If you do not see your keyboard listed here, then I would say you need to go to the Casio support site and download and install their high-level USB-MIDI drivers (if you have not already done so).  If you set it as your default MIDI file player, all you need to do is click on any MIDI file in Windows Explorer and it will load and play, but you can also create playlists of MIDI files, just like an MP3 player, with all the normal playlist options.

You can find the Karoke Player and Casio drivers here:

http://www.vanbasco.com/

http://support.casio.com/en/support/download.php?cid=008&pid=20

Make sure you chose the correct drivers for your system (32 or 64 bit).

Best of luck !

Woody

I just tried what you have been trying with two different Casio boards and a Roland board, as well as my Edirol USB-5-PIN-DIN MIDI adapter on both my Vista desktop and my Win-7 laptop.  Sonar, Cubase, Ableton, and Band-in-a-Box, as well as Windows Device Manager, "see" all of these devices on both machines, but Media Player does not "see" any of them on either machine.  Neither does the "Sound" setup in Control Panel.  At first, I thought the problem might be the built-in "basic" Class Compliant drivers that the Casio's use, so I tried the Roland, which uses separately installed "high-level" drivers from Roland.  Then I realized that the Edirol USB-5-PIN DIN adapter, that also uses "high-level" drivers, is connected to the desktop all the time, and neither Media Player nor Sound setup have ever "seen" it.  So it is apparently not a Class Compliant driver problem.  This is exactly why I got away from Media Player many years ago when the Redmond Raiders decided to "lock" Media Player's output to the MS Wavetable Synth's input.  The only way to redirect that in Vista was with a Registry hack.  I downloaded a program called MIDI-Picker, which is really just a Registry hacker with a GUI interface, but even it is only successful in making the redirection about half the time,  When it does work, the connection will often drop back to the Wavetable Synth right in the middle of a song playback.  These days, whenever I get a new computer, one of the first things I do is get online and download Real Player and WinAmp and use those as my audio and video players, and I always use one of my DAW's as a MIDI player.  Media Player is just too finicky, contrary, and unreliable for my patience.  Why spend countless hours trying to figure out what is wrong with it, most likely to no avail, when I can just download something better and be up and running in a few minutes.

To save yourself any further needless frustration and wasting of precious time, I strongly recommend checking out the two links that Gary (happyrat1) listed above.  If those do not help you, do a Bing search on "free MIDI file players", if that is all you want - a simple player, or search on "free DAW software" if you want to do PC based editing.  I recommend the DAW software.  If you do go after DAW software, make sure it will handle MIDI.  Some DAW software is audio only. 

Best of luck !

Hi Marcelo !

Glad you got that sorted and that it worked for you.

Enjoy !

If you don't like the idea of recording from the keyboard's Song Sequencer to your PC DAW, the keyboard itself will save (convert) CMS (User) song files to SMF (.mid) files onto the SD Card.  See Item 5 at the top of the left hand column on Page 105 of the manual.  While this was provided, primarily, for exporting files that you have recorded with the Song Sequencer to SMF (.mid) format, if you have CMS files that you have received from other sources (friends, colleagues, downloads, etc), just copy them into the MUSICDAT folder on the SD Card, load them into the User Song slots (up to 5), bring them up, one at a time with the Song Sequencer as though you were going to edit them, and then just save them back to the SD Card as SMF (.mid) files.  Bear in mind, that once a file is saved as an SMF, it is no longer editable with the Song Sequencer.  The Song Sequencer will only load CMS files for editing, so once you have done the conversion, be sure to keep the original CMS file, if you intend to ever edit it on the keyboard.  The "conversion" process automatically extracts any data (Auto Accompaniment and Rhythm) recorded into the common System Track (Track 17) into individual tracks for proper editing with DAW software.  Once the "conversion" is done, you can just physically port the SD Card to your PC and and access it directly with your DAW.

Any time you are trying to isolate a sound problem either to the keyboard or to the external sound system, just plug a set of headphones directly into the keyboard's PHONES jack.  If you still hear the problem in the headphones, then the problem is definitely in the keyboard.  If you do not hear the problem in the headphones, then the problem could be in the keyboard's LINE OUT (R/L) jacks and their immediate circuitry, but it is most likely in the external sound system.

todd

Not really !  The CTK-6000/WK-6500 has a REPEAT feature that works with the sequencer transport control that supposedly allows you to set a starting bar and an ending bar in any phrase or song and then just repeat those bars over and over in a loop.  The only problem is, from the end of one loop to the start of the next loop, the keyboard inserts a four click count-in that I don't think anyone has figured out how to turn off.  Turning off the global count-in feature does not work, as that is tied to the recording function.  So, that makes the REPEAT feature pretty much useless for the looping that you and a lot of others would like to do.  The other end of the problem is that the CTK/WK-6XXX's single sequencer is a strict linear affair - no looping.  I say this because if you are asking this as the how-to question of a current owner, then I am sorry to have to give you this news, but if this is a "pre-buy" question, then you might want to consider the CTK/WK-7XXX's, as they both have a linear and a pattern (looping) sequencer.

Good luck !

PS

It has been quite a while since I have addressed this issue, so I welcome anyone who has figured out how to turn the REPEAT feature into a useable looping feature to chime in hear and share your knowledge with us.  I have made dozens of searches through the PDF version of the manual with the FIND feature and various combinations of words trying to find a way to shut off that accursed "click-in", but have yet to come up with a solution.

Spider

I may have found the answer to your most recent drum track question.  There is a note at the bottom of the left hand column of Page 105 of the manual that says, essentially, that when you save a song, any data recorded in a "B" Track will cause data in the same numbered "A" Track to NOT BE SAVED.  So if you are recording a drum rhythm part into Track A-10, and then inadvertently record something into Track B-10, everything will work fine and sound OK as long as it is still "live" in the sequencer, but as soon as you save the song, the presence of data in Track B-10 will keep Track A-10 (your drum track) from getting saved.  So check the song you are having a problem with and see if you have anything recorded to Track B-10.  Keep in mind that the problem does not show up until the song is SAVED.  I guess in that respect, the Roland idea was a little better.  Its two sequencers were entirely separate and unrelated, and other than exceeding the overall polyphony limit of the sound engine, what you did on one had no effect on what you did on the other.  Here the two sets of tracks are, by their design, somewhat inter-related, so when you are doing something in one set ("B") you have to keep in mind what you have recorded in the other set ("A").  If this gets to be a real issue, you could always go into the Mixer and turn B-10 OFF while you are recording and saving, but you would not want to forget to turn it back ON when you are finished or nothing else will work through it.  This way, if you did inadvertently record something to B-10, it would not affect A-10, and you would know it immediately because you would not be able to hear whatever you recorded to it.

I used to have a saying about the design of the JV-1000, since it had two 16 track sequencers instead of a single sequencer with 32 contiguous tracks, that it had a 32 track sequencer "kind of side-ways sort of".  I guess that applies even more here.

Hope this helps !

Hi Spidie - couldn't think of a more fitting fellow to be conversing with on this dark, dreary, blustery, rainy Halloween night unless you went by the title of "Count" !

OK !  When you go to load a SONG ( .CMS ) file from the card back into the keyboard's USER memory, DO NOT use the CARD mode by pressing the CARD button alone.  That is strictly for playing Standard MIDI Files ( SMF ) that have a .MID file extension, and that is all the keyboard will show in that mode.  Instead, to load a SONG file, you have to enter SONG SEQUENCER mode by pressing the SONG SEQUENCER button and then pressing AND HOLDING the FUNCTION button as you press the CARD button for LOAD/SAVE.  Then use the UP/DOWN cursor buttons to select the "Seq Load" function, if it is not already selected.  If you have more than one song on the card, use the jog wheel to select the desired song and the display will show you which memory slot it is going to load it into.  If you have something else in that slot, make sure you have already saved it to the card before you overwrite it with the song you are currently loading.  Press ENTER, then YES, and you should be all set.  Let me know if you still have problems with this.  The SAVE/LOAD functions on these keyboards seem to be a lot more convoluted than they need to be.

NOW . . . For your next question . . . I do not have an exact answer for you, but we will have to really dig into the meat of things with the sequencer so that, maybe, you can figure out on your on what happened to your drum track.  I covered all this either on another forum or somewhere else on this forum, but I can no longer find it, so will have to redo it here.  To understand what Casio is doing with its SONG SEQUENCER, we have to talk a bit first about the two types of MIDI files, as Casio has applied that same idea to its sequencer.  When we talk about INTERNAL MIDI data, that is MIDI data while it is still INSIDE the keyboard, or sequencer, or sound module, we talk about it being divided up or assigned to TRACKS.  While most PC DAW's now have an unlimited number of tracks, most hardware or keyboard sequencers are limited to 16 tracks.  Some years ago, Roland's JV-1000 flagship ROMpler touted a 32 track sequencer, but it was actually just two 16 track sequencers in the same keyboard.  BUT . . . now . . . when we talk about MIDI data when it is BETWEEN devices, that is when it is in the connecting cable(s), we refer to it being divided up or assigned to CHANNELS.  Usually it goes on a one-for-one basis (Track 1 - to - Channel 1 - to - Track 1), but that is not required.  With your hardware and DAW set ups, you can mix them up anyway you want, say . . . Track 2 - to - Channel 5 - to Track 7, or what ever you like.  So, once again, TRACKS carry MIDI data WITHIN the devices, while CHANNELS carry MIDI data between devices, and that now brings us to the two different types of MIDI files.  A TYPE-1 MIDI file has its data spread across 16 CHANNELS - one TRACK PER CHANNEL, while a TYPE-0 MIDI file has ALL 16 TRACKS ON A SINGLE CHANNEL.  A TYPE-0 MIDI player is able to split the data back into individual tracks and play them.  So . . . now . . . along comes Casio.  The CTK/WK-6XXX units hype a 16 track plus system track sequencer, while the CTK/WK-7XXX units tout a 17 track sequencer.  Why Casio makes the distinction, I have no idea  -  THEY'RE THE SAME SEQUENCER IN BOTH MODEL LINES, but a peek in the manual will reveal an even deeper mystery.  The manual shows that there are 16 "A" TRACKS and 16 "B" TRACKS.  The "A" tracks are reserved strictly for INTERNAL use - for when you play the keybed, or for the auto accompaniment, or when the SONG SEQUENCER plays a User Song, while the "B" TRACKS are connected to the USB MIDI port for use by an external sequencer, or by the internal MIDI file player.  So, the keyboard treats its own MIDI file player as an external device.  That's why the difference in the way it handles loads/saves of song (CMS) files vs MIDI (MID) files.  The "B" tracks can also be accessed (played) from the keybed when they are selected in the SONG SEQUENCER for a single track recording.  So how do we accommodate all these extra tracks ?  The "B" tracks are handled as 16 discrete tracks, just as you would suspect, but the sequencer handles the SYSTEM TRACK (TRACK 17) as though it were a TYPE-0 MIDI file.  The SYSTEM TRACK (TRACK 17) "CONTAINS" the 16 "A" TRACKS.  That is why you have to do an EXTRACT in order to edit them.  The EDITOR can only handle 16 discrete tracks, not a composite that contains all 16 tracks.  When you do an EXTRACT, the "A" tracks are fanned out and copied into the discrete "B" tracks so the editor can handle them.  Actually, the EXTRACT function only copies TRACKS 4 thru 7 and 9 thru 16, as those are the only tracks involved in a QUICK RECORD.  This is really neat.  Where Roland had to completely duplicate their hardware to handle 32 tracks, Casio did the same thing with only one piece of hardware and only 17 discrete tracks.

Basically these Casio units are just glorified General MIDI (GM) keyboards, and the GM standard requires that the drums be on TRACK 10.  I had assumed that when you did your EXTRACT, that the drum data got switched to another track, so I created a song file and converted it to SMF (.MID) both before and after extraction and then ported them to Sonar, but to my surprise, the drums were on TRACK 10 in both files.  So, if your drums ended up on the wrong track, it is not because of any "default" action of the EXTRACT process.  You may want to check with your DAW to see if the drum track got switched (and change it back to TRACK 10), or if it just got lost completely.

One interesting note - the SMF I made before extraction had glitches that would cause Sonar, and Cubase, and Power Tracks, all to "stumble" in 5 or 6 places, so I tried several more files and got the same thing, but the files I converted to SMF AFTER extraction all ran fine without a single glitch.  So apparently a direct SMF conversion of a raw CMS file without extraction contains some kind of control data that DAW's do not like.

That's all for this time.

Good luck !

Hey Spider

Glad you got all that sorted out so that now you can just sit back and enjoy, but don't slow down, buddy.  I'm right behind you and would hate to walk on your heels.  -  I celebrated my 70th the first part of September, so I know what you mean when you talk about those "senior moments".

Best of luck with your endeavors and will be looking forward to hearing more from you.

Spider

NO !  You can not add additional INTERNAL memory to the Casio CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX keyboards, and the SD Card will not help you with that when it comes to recording songs, as the save is automatically done to INTERNAL memory.  You can not redirect this save to the SD Card, and if there is insufficient INTERNAL memory the save can not be made, and you get the 'Insufficient memory" message.  The 6XXX's only have memory for 5 songs and a TOTAL of 12,000 notes.  That's an average of only 2,400 notes per song.  Compare this to the 7XXX's which store 5 songs with a TOTAL of 30,000 notes for an average of 6,000 notes per song.  When I recall simple MOTL ROMplers (not arrangers) of 10 or 15 years ago that came with memory to hold 50 to 60 thousand notes, I guess it is conceivable that the 6XXX's could run shy of memory after a couple of really "busy" songs.  I suppose it is best to view the INTERNAL memory as pretty much "temporary" and just move data back and forth between it and the SD Card as needed.

As for your SD Card problem.  I am a bit suspicious of your new 8Gb card.  The best way to tell very quickly is switch to another card - say an old 2Gb card' and see if the keyboard is able to format it.  If it can, then there is most likely a problem with your new card.  If it can not, then you probably need to do a factory reset initialize on the keyboard.  I had a similar problem with my 6000 a week or so ago.  You will need to back up your data before you do the reset, and you will have to do it to your PC via the USB cable and the Data Manager software, because at this stage you probably can not do anything reliably with the SD Card.  After the reset, format the new SD Card in the keyboard.  With my old WK-3800, I could format the SD Card in my PC, manually create a MUSICDAT folder on it, and everything was fine, but the CTK-6000 seems to be very picky about that, so I just format the cards in the keyboard and everything works fine.  By the way, the problem that necessitated my reset was a third party MIDI file with a sysex message that the keyboard didn't like.  It pretty well screwed everything up.

My other concern about your card is that some years ago in the days of the 1 and 2 Gb cards, SanDisk and a few others starting putting that U3 Launcher program on the cards and most keyboards just could not use it, and formatting the card in a PC or the keyboard would not get rid of it, because it was in a separate partition that MS-DOS could not get to.  You had to download and run a special program to get rid of it.  The U3 program was abandoned at least 3 or 4 years ago, but I have recently seen on other forums and from emails that PNY and some other manufacturers are putting proprietary file manager programs on their SD and USB storage media that do not work with some keyboards, but at this point, none of us seems to have any info on this.  The solution has been to return the card and exchange it for a different brand.

Good luck !

I have the CTK-6000, the WK-7500, and the XW-P1 and have noticed a three-way split on the performance of the piano voices, with the 7500 being best of the three and the XW-P1 the worst.  The "Technical Specs" sections for each of these units on the Casio website show the CTK/WK-7XXX with three element voices and the CTK/WK-6XXX with two element voices.  This would seem to be in keeping with the 64 vs 48 voice polyphony difference between the two model lines.  That does not necessarily mean the samples themselves are different, just that the 6's use only two while the 7's use three.  My guess is the XW's, typical of most "synths" that have some acoustic instrument samples thrown in, use the old "GM" type single element samples for the acoustic instruments.  That would seem to explain most of the sound quality difference we are hearing, not to mention what different effects processing is being applied to the "stock" voices in the various units.  This does not necessarily mean the XW samples are bad.  Roland's later single element GS/GM2 units with large samples sounded pretty good.  It is just that there is a noticeable difference when you compare them to multi-element units which typically sound "fuller".  That was supposedly the main selling point of the Roland Jupiter 50/80.  It offered top of the line samples for BOTH the synth voices and the acoustic voices, but the trade off was that you only get 3-part multi-timbral with massive layering vs the conventional 16-part in other units.  Their Juno-Gi synth takes an MOTL shot at this with high quality synth voices and a huge selection of good quality acoustic and electric piano voices, but some of the smaller sample voices, particularly the brass instruments, seem to go wanting.

ADDENDUM:  I just checked the "Technical Specs" section for the XW-P1 at the Casio website and it shows that the P1 DOES use three element voicing, at least for the stereo piano sample, but is it the same as the WK-7500 or a different (smaller) sample ?. . . AND . . . this probably does mean that with some careful tweaking, we should be able to coax every bit as good of a piano sound out of the P1 as comes stock on the WK-7500.  AHHH !  Nothing like a good challenge to while away the coming winter months (for those of us in the northern hemisphere, at least) !