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Happy to say that the fast timing of notes is great now after all the tweaks! Played music last night and notes were flying :-)

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I've always had the latest firmware installed (1.13 currently), and I still get the problem.

This is not good news. I can't have this happen to me. hmmmmm

I play bass as well on some gigs, what I do is assign slider 1 to bass, that way I can adjust the volume on the fly. But if she wants a volume pedal to control the level, then yes, pan left and right to split the audio.

Interesting. For me, it reduced the amount of "speed" necessary to sound a note. Since you don't have to press as fast to sound the note, the note sounds more consistently. In addition, with the hammer 0, the touch feels much faster. Yes, it's all perceived.

Yes, good one! Also playing with the metronome on 2 and 4! 

I have no doubt you can play fast on the 5s. That is awesome. These changes are for people like me that need help from playing those other inferior keyboards.

The problem was not so much playing fast, the problem was playing in time.

Yeah, I've played on quite a few keyboards too - we don't have to go there. I'm pretty darn old.

Sorry, if I brought up editing a keyboard - I'm a programmer so it's in my nature. I know some people don't like to alter anything, but not everyone gets it right - including the original programmers.

Nice work with the felt! Interesting! I guess these slight mods make quite a difference for us!

>If my memory serves me, you can set it so that the lighter you play, the louder or higher the perceived velocity

I think it just scales the velocity range - but I am not sure because some parameters in this keyboard do not work like I expect.

The modification to velocity helps for rapid passages. It DOES make a difference. Yes, single key repeat cannot be made faster due to the physical nature of the slower action, BUT the modification to velocity does help. The PX-5S key repeat IS slower than a lot of acoustic pianos I have played. But I mainly play Steinway and Yamaha - not sure of other brands.

>Reducing the velocity brings the keyboard closer to an organ keyboard

Yes, but if you don't overdo it, it makes it closer to all the other keyboards on the market, like the S90ES.

This adjustment is for people that play rapid passages and are used to playing keyboards like the S90/Motif/Korg etc...

The whole point is that the PX-5S does not play like most keyboards on the market. Now, not all sounds are extreme in dynamic range like the pianos, but most are. The parameter is there to be changed, otherwise, why have it?

Thanks Edwardo, please try the velocity setting, you will like it. Please report back - also set hammer response to 1 or 0.

Please let me know.

Yes, I tried light etc... nothing affected the perceived feel like the velocity setting. Glad it was found!

So.... while hammer response makes a difference in playing, I was going through old threads and this came up:

(Tone->Amp->Velocity)

It makes a HUGE difference. Decreasing the value from 64 to 45-55 etc... changes the feel of the instrument. Need to work on it, but this is big. Try it.

Because you want a global EQ for matching when you play places. This is similar to the master EQ of the Kronos etc...

I would assume that's why the feature is there. Not only that, it's very confusing when there are 2 master effects and one loads with the stage settings and the other doesn't.

Sorry to bring this back up, but I feel the same way right now. Repeated notes are difficult to play and I do agree that it seems that the key travel takes a long time before the sound will start. Then again, I am used to the Yamaha S90ES and P80 which I used for years. I have a Fatar but never really used it much live. I hope I can get used to the PX-5S because I do like it a lot. I'm just playing lousy jazz piano with it! It's obviously me because there's lots of people playing really fast on it.

XW and Choppin, did you get used to the action?

Thanks Brad. I kind of gave up and set the stage set filter to OFF for both. At least this way it is always consistent I think. The problem is that I lose a global EQ for the entire board but I guess I don't have to use the DSP for EQ now.

Can I have some help with the Master effects?

I have sys settings->general->stage set filter to ON for BOTH effects.

AFAIK, this should make it so both effects settings never change for any stage settings loaded.

Can someone please verify this?

Because my master EQ is changing - not all the time, just sometime - is it when a new stage setting is loaded from USB? In any case it is driving me nuts.

I can't rely on the EQ being correct -  I have to constantly check.

If none of that works, the brightest piano sound is always in a Roland keyboard. Try any of the Roland stage pianos and you will hear the bright, cutting sound of their pianos. I don't like it, but I have heard it sound good in a band context. I was the second keyboard for Brian Culbertson and he cranked his Roland keyboard along with a lot more highs than I would use. Cut right through the band.

I believe the top 4 knobs on the PX-5S are EQ by default. If necessary, save your entire settings to USB, then load one of the default all files in this forum, go down to the store and tweak the 4 knobs (rightmost is highs I think).  Either that or press the Master button, go to EQ and adjust it for more highs and possibly more mids.

If you test the EV ZLX12p, then it has a DSP setting, where you can EQ the speaker.

>i'm presently playing through 2 roland kc 350 amps in stereo--the pianos sound clangy and not very bright

You exactly described the tone of the KC series amps. Clangy, metallic and not very bright. 

Go to the music store, set yourself in the middle of two EV ZLXP or two QSC KSC8-12 speakers and plug directly into the speakers. You will absolutely love the sound. 

>At home I'm playing stereo through 2 M-Audiio Bx-5s

OK, but are you also listening to your computer through those speakers? If so, it should sound identical. If not, very interesting.....

If you think about it, you already like the sound in the videos, so the sound IS in the PX-5S. So it's either the speakers (yes, the Roland amps are not good - sorry). Or something else.

Please do not feel offended by this video - I only mean to post it to show that, touch does affect a lot - along with voicings.

Why are the sounds different?

Well the weird part is that I am fine practicing in time. Been playing the PX-5S every day, fast tempos. Yes, I find the key action a little slower than my S90ES but mostly on the repeats of the keys. Will fool around with it more - it's also possible it could be the drummer I played with (hehehehe).

You could be right though - I have been practicing on my Yamaha S90ES and Yamaha P80 for all of these years so I am very familiar with the action.

For the people that just got your PX-5S.... are you having a harder time playing faster in time? For some reason I find the PX-5S harder to play in time - live with the band. I'm not sure what it is. I played a Motif XF8 recently and it was flying and was easy to play in time - (Jazz, fast tempos). 

It may be that there is more key travel on the PX???? Not sure. Playing slower is fine etc....

I have adjusted the hammer response from 2 to 1 so will try that. Maybe I should make it zero?

This is with the piano sound. 

Get the QSC 8 or 10 inch versions or the EV ZLX 12 inch series. They all sound great. The Roland keyboard amp is IMO one of the worst possible amps for keyboards. Although it is provided around the world, I really hate playing through that amp.

The QSC 1000 watt powered speakers are awesome. I play through them all the time, if the ones you played through sounded boxy, either the EQ was screwed up on the PX-5S or something else was wrong. The PX-5S is great through the QSC or the EV. Crystal clear - not boxy.

The CPS seems awesome, but I have a feeling it doesn't have enough bass and that I would blow out the puny speakers. I don't know why I think that, except I do :-) No offense to Michael Boddicker! 

There are lots of 76 weighted keyboards on the market. The Korg Kronos is one - but you are right, it's heavy.