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  1. Demo songs are strictly that, and nothing more. They are either written by the manufacturer's staff for the specific model that they appear on, or are hired out to a contractor (like Tech-Note), or are selected and purchased from a contractor's stock pool of such tunes. These things don't come off the Rolling Stone Top 500 list, and the only place you are ever likely to find a particular demo song is on one of the keyboard's that it originally came on, so your purchase of the WK-3300 is most likely your best bet. Although, anyone with a WK-3300, 3800, or 8000 should have been able to make you an audio copy, but then, that gets into possible copyright infringement, plus it puts you at the mercy of how meticulous the person making the copy is with their audio recording equipment and procedures At any rate, enjoy the WK-3300 and the tune.
  2. In all honesty, I strongly suspect that keyboard demo songs are mostly just a day-to-day, run-of-the-mill, pay-the-bills, activity that are long forgotten by the next production run. Maybe not by their author(s), but certainly by those who select them, pay for them, and arrange for getting them included in the keyboard's firmware. To those individuals, they are just another step in the process, and in the case of the WK-3300/3800/8000, we are talking a model line that is some 11 or 12 years old.
  3. Bloomberg lists essentially the same address for Tech-Note International as is shown for Technote International, except that they appear to have relocated from Brigade House to Vemon House and dropped the hyphen from their name at some point: You can email Technote at: If they are not actually Tech-Note, they would most likely be willing to point you in the right direction. I doubt very much that any of those demo songs for the WK-3300/3800/8000 model line are public domain. If Casio included them under license from Tech-Note, then Tech-Note retains the rights, but if Casio bought full rights from Tech-Note, then Casio now owns them. In either case, rights owners are not usually wont to give them up without substantial monetary compensation.
  4. ctk-7200

    It is not an easy process, by any means, and more often than not, produces much less than desirable results. Those that have tried have reported widely varying degrees of success, or the lack thereof. You may want to review the following thread: This thread deals with the WK-7500, but what is discussed in it applies equally well to the CTK-7000/WK-7500 and CTK-7200/WK-7600. There are also other similar threads. Do a site search on "style conversion" or "rhythm conversion" or "Yamaha style to Casio rhythm conversion", etc. The conversion program described in the above thread was written by a private individual many years ago, when Yamaha style files were much simpler and smaller than they are today. They were all in the Yamaha SFF-1 format and all ended in a ".STY" file extension. More current files end in a myriad of different file extensions and many are in the new SFF-2 format, which must first be converted to SFF-1 by another program, but also contain articulation tones that Yamaha calls "Mega Voices", which will not convert at all. Many, but NOT ALL, that have file extensions other than ".STY" can be simply renamed to have an "STY" extension. So, for the most part, you will be limited to styles from the older Yamaha PSR models, which I think you will find are not on par with the newer rhythms of the new Casio CTK/WK models, but to each his own. Hopefully, one of those who have tried will pop in here and share their experiences with you.
  5. The new CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX models do, indeed, accept the older Z00 Rhythm files, either in their raw Z00 format, or in their CKF encapsulated format. They can be loaded into User Rhythm memory via the Data Manager 6.1 software or directly on the keyboard from an SD Memory Card. As they are loaded into the keyboard's User Rhythm memory, the keyboard's operating system automatically converts them to the new AC7 format, so that if they are ultimately exported back to a computer or SD Card, they come back as the new AC7 files. The Z00 Rhythm files are the only Z0X files that can be imported from the older models. None of the tone based files are compatible because of vast sound engine differences between the older and newer units. Of course, "ALL" files from the older models can not be imported because of the incompatibilities I have just mentioned. Unfortunately, Casio has never provided a means of converting (porting) Song files from one model line to another. Even though they have offered a software program for converting the CM2 Song files of the CTK/WK models that pre-dated the WK-3XXX units to Standard MIDI Files (SMF) with a .MID file extension, there has never been a means of converting CM2 Songs to Z02 Songs or CM2 or Z02 Songs to the CMS Song format (all three of which are Casio proprietary MIDI formats) of the new 6XXX/7XXX lines. This seems even more curious, when you consider the fact that the CURRENT lower priced (entry level) CTK/WK models (WK-2XX and equivalent CTK models) still use the old CM2 Song file format.
  6. Beginning with the CTK-7000 and WK-7500, the two models are identical in every respect, other than the fact that the CTK-7000 is a 61 key model, while the WK-7500 is a 76 key unit. This similarity now carries over to the CTK-7200 and the WK-7600 - other than 61 keys versus 76 keys, they are identical, so it is just a matter of deciding whether you want/need 61 keys or 76 keys. The current typical price difference is about $100 USD more for the 76 key (WK-7600) model.
  7. What few videos are available on the CTK/WK-6XXX sequencers are really basic - pretty much how to play somerhing and record it the first day you get the keyboard. They do not go into the depth of what can happen when you start merging tracks and things like that. Several years ago, Casio's Mike Martin did a fairly indepth video on using the CTK/WK-7XXX's Pattern Sequencer to create a custom Rhythm, but that is an entirely different animal from what you are dealing with. Right now, you are having problems with sustained notes, but when you start merging tracks with embedded effects and controls, things can turn into a real mess real quick. Your best course is to come up with a workaround for doing what you want without merging tracks to begin with, and this does not affect just the Casio sequencers. What you are running into are sequencer facts of life. Commercially available quality videos covering specific items on specific keyboard models are extremely rare as there is just not that much of a market for them. You might try doing a search on Amazon for books on in-depth sequencer practices. There were two or three back in the mid 90's. With a little luck, maybe there are still a couple of copies lying around somewhere.
  8. Richard I suspect that your problems with items 1 and 2 may be, to a certain extent, related, but to begin with Item 1 by itself: are you turning Auto Accompaniment ON AND pressing the Synchro button before making your first chord ? If not, Auto Accompaniment will not start properly, or at all. As for Item 2, and the possible tie-in from Item 1: When you have Auto Accompaniment in FULL RANGE mode, Auto Accompaniment "parses" the entire width of the keyboard for key presses by both hands to control the Auto Accompaniment, so in that mode, certainly, what you play with your right hand will affect the Auto Accompaniment. That is the whole purpose of FULL RANGE mode, but most players who make extensive use of FULL RANGE will tell you that you need to develop a "knack" in your playing style, so as not to confuse the Auto Accompaniment when playing complex full two-handed classical or jazz chords, particularly with grace notes. Basically you need to learn what you can get away with and avoid what you can not. You need to study the "Fingering Guide" on Page A-1 of the manual for the permissible chord styles. If you use FULL RANGE mode and stray from this chart, you are bound to get into trouble with Auto Accompaniment, sooner or later. For now, I would recommend using one of the FINGERED modes, in partucular, FINGERED 1, and let the Auto Accompaniment set the split point, but make your own legitimate triads and four note chords. That is, do not use the "Easy" or "Casio Chords". If you do this, and still have the symptoms you describe, then you may have a problem with your keyboard, if not, then the problem is most likely what I describe above. Your Item 3 is mostly a matter of semantics. The second paragraph in the left hand column of Page 38 in the manual states "You can edit built-in rhythms to create your own original rhythms . . . .". The key words here are edit and create. In "Casio-speak", you "edit" something that is already there in order to "create" your own "new thing". Many new owners are put off by this topic, when they realize that they have to start with something that is already there, rather than starting with a completely blank slate, and with the Pattern Sequencers in the CTK/WK-7XXX models, even that CAN be done. Mike Martin made a video several years ago about how to do it, but Casio avoids a confrontation on this with their finely engineered "selection" of words. As for you, you can just modify existing rhythms to your heart's content, and you don't always have to start with a factory pre-set. You can start with a User Rhythm that you already modified yesterday, or last week, or last month. So, go to it ! Enjoy . . . . and best of luck ! Sent from my HP laptop.
  9. Johnathon I do not know if you ever found an answer to this, so . . . . . The .ckf files for the older 76 key WK-3000, 3300, 3500, 3800, etc and their 61 key CTK counterparts were distribution files which could contain a single rhythm, a single tone, a single tone with wave, a single drawbar organ tone, etc or any number or mixture of the same. They were sort of a Casio proprietary "zip" file. It was the IDES Data Management Software's job to extract the different file types and install them into the target keyboard's appropriate User Memory areas. Because of the vast differences between the older models' sound engines and those of the newer CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX models, none of the older tone related files will work in the newer models, but because of the similarities in their Rhyrhm engines, the older Rhythm files will work in the newer models. In particluar, the old .ckf Rhythm files extracted to .Z00 files and the newer models will import either the .ckf file or the .Z00 file, and conversion to the new .AC7 Rhythm format is performed by the target keyboard's operating system as the file is loaded into that keyboard's User Rhythm memory. This conversion occurs whether the file is loaded from a PC by the Data Management Software or directly from an SD Card. That is to say, the "conversion" is done by the keyboard, not the Data Management Software. If, at some later point in time, those files are copied back to an SD Card or brought back up to a PC's hard drive with the Data Management Software, they come back in the new .AC7 format. So, if you wanted to convert a set of old Rhythm files for someone, you need only install them (either .ckf or .Z00) into one of the newer model's User Rhythm memory, and then bring them back to the PC in the new .AC7 format. That is to say, the keyboard is the "converter". I think you would probably find that the new PX models do the same.
  10. Sorry ! I posted a reply in the wrong (this) thread. Please disregard ! See: for the correct thread.
  11. To adjust the overall Accompaniment Volume of the CTK-7000/7200 or WK-7500/7600: Page 133 of the manual starts you out on the very last display page you need to do this, but it does not tell you how to get to that page to begin with. So: Press the FUNCTION button to bring up Page-1 of the -Function- menu. Press the RIGHT ARROW ( > ) button to go to Page-2 of the -Function- menu. Use the UP/DOWN ARROW buttons to select the first item on the list ( Volume ). (It will probably already be selected.) Press the ENTER button once to go to the next display page. Use the UP/DOWN ARROW buttons to select the first item on this list ( AccompVol ). (It will probably already be selected.) Use the DATA WHEEL or the + / - buttons to set the desired level. Press the EXIT button twice to return to the home display screen. Once you have the Accompaniment Volume adjusted to your taste, you can save that keyboard set up as a Registration (See Pages 66 and 67) for quick recall. The WK-7600 will save up to 96 Registrations (16 Banks of 6 Registrations each). Your other option is to use the MIXER Section, as described on Pages 36 to 43, to adjust the levels of the individual Parts of a Pre-set Rhythm and then save it as a User Rhythm. The WK-7600 will save up to 100 User Rhythms. You can edit Pre-set Tones yourself and save the results as User Tones (up to 100), or import User Tones created by others, as ".TN7" User Tone Files, but to my knowledge, no one, including Casio, has made User Tones commercially available. There is a small selection of member contributed User Tones available in the Downloads section of this forum: However, User Tones are nothing more than a set of Parameters for shaping the Wave Samples that the WK-7600 has onboard. For instance, the WK-7600 has several piano wave sample sets, and you can use the Tone Editor to create piano tones to your heart's content, but if you wanted to create a dobro or didjeridu tone, you would not be able to do that, as the WK-7600 has neither a dobro nor a didjeridu wave sample, and it has no means of importing wave samples. Keyboards that can import wave samples typically run twice the price of the WK-7600 and more.
  12. Debbie Since the accompaniment was not transposed, then the keyboard could not have been globally transposed, and that is why it did not show as being transposed. Only your selected tone was transposed. This could have been caused by a pitchbend wheel that was stuck out of its normal zero position, particularly having it out of its zero position when the keyboard is powered up, or a pitch bend wheel that has become defective. It could also be caused by selecting a User Tone that has been transposed, or having a registration active that had selected a transposed User Tone, or a Mixer Coarse or Fine Tune setting that was transposing the tone. Some of these things can be done by playing MIDI files, from outside sources, that have control messages embedded in them. These will normally be cleared by a factory reset. If you do not have any transposed User Tones, or have not been playing any MIDI files other than your own, and the factory reset did not immediately resolve the problem, then the pitchbend wheel is my prime suspect. Try moving it to its upper limit and letting it snap back to its zero position. Play a tone to see if its pitch is normal. Now repeat with moving the wheel to its lower limit. Then, gently try to move the wheel from side to side at its zero position as you play a tone to see if its tuning becomes erratic. A defective wheel will need to be replaced by a service center, but in the meantime, you can try setting its bend range to 00 with the Function menu. See "Bend Range" under "Function Menu Settings" in the right hand column of Page 131 of the manual. Good luck !
  13. The conversion I was referencing was using the Data Manager software to convert Casio proprietary audio files, that had been recorded to the SD Card, by the keyboard, to standard Windows WAV files, and transferring them to a computer's hard drive for distribution to other devices. This process has absolutely nothing to do with CMS files, as CMS files are MIDI files, not audio files. This is the only conversion process that the Data Manager software performs - Casio proprietary audio files to standard Windows WAV (audio) files. Basically, it is just a conversion from one audio format to another (more widely useable) audio format. Songs stored in the keyboard's internal Song Sequencer memory can be converted to Standard MIDI Files (SMF) when they are saved from the keyboard's internal memory to the SD Card, but that conversion is done by the keyboard itself, not the Data Management software. When a Song is saved to the SD Card, there will be an option to save it as a CMS file, or as a Standard MIDI File (SMF). See the appropriate section in the manual for saving data to the SD Card. The full "conversion" process I described previously amounted to loading a CMS (MIDI) file into the Song Sequecer, and playing it back, as the keyboard's Audio Recorder recorded it to a Casio audio file, on the SD Card, then using the Data Manager software to convert the Casio audio file to a Windows WAV (audio) file and transfering that to a computer, but there is no "direct" ("single step"/"menu option") conversion of CMS files to audio (WAV) files, rather, it is a somewhat involved process with several steps. Obviously, this procedure will only work on the CTK/WK-7XXX models, as the CTK/WK-6XXX models do not have audio recording capabilities.
  14. To connect the two WK keyboards together, it would have to be done through a computer or through a "USB-MIDI host" device: There is no simple "adapter" that has the necessary processor intelligence to provide the required USB-MIDI protocol control to do this. The "Host" devices are really nothing more than very highly specialized computers.
  15. sslyutov The CDP-130 can TRANSMIT on any one of the 16 MIDI channels - but only on one of those channels at a time. It can RECEIVE on all 16 channels simultaneously - making it 16 part multitimbral - even though it only has a 10 tone voice bank. As to your second comment above, some of the lower priced (entry level) Yamaha Arrangers operate the same way. The preset tones are fairly or completely fixed, with no way of altering them from the keyboard's front panel, but some parameters are alterable via MIDI. So, some of the more advanced of those users have devised ways of embedding those parameter "edits" into one or two bar "noteless" MIDI files and then play the file they need to set up the tones the way they want immediately before they start playing. In other words, they are using one or two bar "noteless" MIDI files as sort of "external" registrations. With this scheme, a couple of them have been able to turn a few of the mundane, lack-luster, run-of-the-mill pre-set "synth" (sine, saw, square, etc) tones into more lively tones that sound surprisingly like some of the popular vintage boards out of the past, but from the way they describe it, it takes quite a bit of experimentation and effort.