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It is possible without using hex layers. Under edit>stage setting>zone>control you can turn off the controls for various zones. [use zone+/- buttons to flip between the zones in this menu] So you can set both slider 1 and slider 2 to control volume [cc no.11 I think] in edit>stage setting>common Then turn off slider 1 for zone 1 and turn off slider 2 for zone 2 and you have one slider controlling zone 1 volume and one slider controlling zone 2 volume.

ah, didn't realise this. so you can't get a higher cut-off by setting it to 127 in the menu and then pushing the slider up. It doesn't go up to a combined total of 191 (127+64). So the slider's range in this case will be 64 to 127 and it maxes out half way up. Thanks for your time Brad. Getting closer to figuring everything out It's my first proper digital piano with any kind of synth features so a lot of this kind of detail is probably widely understood by most people who have had previous keyboards but it has been confusing me.

Sure, I understand the difference. The way you explained it is a good way of seeing it. It threw me off when I first started messing around with hex layers having learned what the init function did. I'm still not 100% on which way the controls offset parameters. One thing I wondered is why in the hex layers you can adjust say the cut-off from 1 - 127 but in non-hex layer tones the range is -64 to +64. I'm guessing it is because the hex layer feature was developed independently from the rest and this is just a design quirk. But my confusion is due to the offsetting. If I set the cut-off for a hexlayer tone to 0 in the settings, What does slider 1 do (assuming its min and max settings are 0 and 127)? If I push the slider to the top does it go up to 127 or does go up to 64. Do I consider a middle point for the slider as the original cut-off setting in the menu? But what happens if the slider's min and max settings are say 48 and 96?

Sure: Pick a blank hex layer tone for zone 1 in say the default 0-0 stage setting. So by default, you have a sine wave loaded for the 1st layer and all other layers are off. Make sure init by wave is set to on. Use slider 1 to set the cut-off to zero. Scroll to the previous wave, the gun shot. You will notice you can't hear anything. Because cut-off was set to zero using the slider and this change carries. Scroll back to sine wave too. You will notice it still sounds like cut-off is set to zero. It wasn't set back to the default casio envelope for the sine wave. Does that make sense? If you do those previous steps but instead of using the slider, you change the cut-off using the display menu, then "init by wave:on" works the way you expect and the sine wave is reset to the casio default envelope but not if you use the slider to change it.

some here: http://www.thomann.de/ie/sustain_pedals.html?ls=50

I bought a Roland dp10. It's fine though I'd prefer something lower probably. About $40. I think the M-Audio SP-2 is supposed to ok and cheaper. Couldn't find any Casio ones. To be honest though I've been thinking about getting one of these I've seen talked about: http://www.casiomusicforums.com/index.php?/topic/5638-no-ability-for-expression-pedal-input-ill-work-around-it/#entry14703 Looks like it's a little over $100

yeah I did mean waves Brad, sorry. It's a great feature to have as you can easily hear what other waves sound like with some same envelope if you want. But do you notice that no matter whether init is set to off or on, if you use the hard controls to adjust some parameter, those changes stay when you select a new wave. Makes sense to be like that in 'init off' mode but I think it would be better if in 'init on' mode, any changes you made with the hard controls are cancelled too when you choose a new wave. That was what was confusing me about init on/off. Minor thing really. I just have to remember not to use the hard controls when scanning through the waves in on mode to hear them properly.

Sounds like you got it figured out. One thing I had to do was to change the key range from A0 to A0 in zone 1 so the bottom note triggered the bongo arp. I think you had it at C2.

If zone 1 enable is off, how can you hear anything on zone 1? The only way to hear something on zone 1 when it is off is if you are using the phrase sequencer (not arpeggiator) to play back a phrase. Do you know the difference? None of the controls will work on a zone if it is off. It's actually a handy way to apply the controls to some of the zones but not all: you can quickly turn a zone off, use the controls to apply some effect and then turn the zone you turned off back on again. I have a stage setting here and I just loaded a phrase in the arpeggiator, set it to fix and then let it play in hold mode. Then I set slider 1 to only control the volume on zone 1 and it works fine. Can you upload your stage setting here and I'll have a look at it?

You are playing the phrase through the phrase function (as opposed to the arpeggiator function) and you have zone 1 set to off, I'm guessing. Is that right?

can you record yours jokeyman. Mine makes a similar noise to Bouncy's though they all more or less sound like the first notes he played. Sometimes keys rattle a bit more but it's sort of random.

Sounds professional. You used Casio products to make this?

I think it's an ALL file where the stages settings are in an alternative order: Pianos are in bank 1, EPs in bank 2 and so on. With the original you get a mix in each bank. It won't load automatically. IIRC, you hold down the media button on the right and then look for an option to Load All or something like that. The file does need to be in a MUSICDAT folder on your usb key.

so when are you going to tell us?

It could be my pedal but has anyone else discovered that if they are changing what effect a pedal does, and perhaps scrolling through the list or modifying parameters with the pedal depressed then it will totally mess up the output like effects carry over or down is now up etc. Seems like a simple fix in the code somewhere to just clear the previous effect properly and ignore whether the pedal is down or up. Could be just my pedal though. It's not a major grievence but it happens a lot to me as I am testing out effects to put on the pedal or changing params. I have to remember to take my foot completely off the pedal, change something and then try it out.

Welcome Zombie. You're going to love it.

Yeah that would be great. One other thing, and I'm not asking people to do this as I would probably forget myself but it would be helpful to include any instructions/guide for the stage setting to be included as a text file with the same name as the stage setting so people don't have tons of stage settings in a folder but can't remember what way to use them or what they do, maybe even a demo too. I've been downloading a lot them recently so I started copying the user-text from the download pages and saving them as txt files but I only managed to do it for all the official ones because there are just too many user ones. I started saving the full html page instead.

They use one at the start of strawberry fields I think.

you certainly did. I was just looking at the list of them yesterday as I want to download and play with everything everyone has taken the time to upload and you've certainly uploaded tonnes of them.

yeah I saw that too. Looking at the scripts that were trying to load on the page, I think the malicious script was from w9statistics.info as when I let that run it loaded that dating site you mention.

hmm, this post didn't seemed like it posted. I just got a blank page so every time I refreshed it, it must have re-posted thread. Apologies. I couldn't delete them. Seems like someone did though.

Can anyone download any of the stage settings?

and be aware it's very editable and their are a number of tweaked versions available for download on the forum including ones offer a narrower dynamic range. For some players, the dynamic response may seem too wide or difficult to control.

maybe you don't need to. Maybe you hear vis bone conduction like google glass. Jawbone Bluetooth headsets pick up audio through your jawbone. http://www.geek.com/mobile/how-sound-works-on-googles-project-glass-1531301/