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9 hours ago, Mclandy said:

The "ErrDataFull" message indicates that the built-in storage (memory) for songs (or User Rhythm or User Tones) is full, which just means that before you can save another one, you will need to delete one or more to "make room" for the new one.  Deleting songs from built-in storage does not affect what is on the USB drive, so save any that you want to keep onto the USB drive before deleting them from memory.  That way you can re-load them later.

Yes thanks

Just saw Data Full but didnt see "Err" in front of that

Anyway, yes sure, to save before delete, thatss what i do, but the catch was if u delete the inbuilt so’g, it doesnt delete also USB

However, thanks to ur words even if its somehow "repeat" for u and me, but 2 brains isnalways better than one for me, so i can learn more efficiently and wont forget.

So far’so good, its ok now with my subject, thanks Maclandy, i really do appreciate your time and effort w me, coz i might be "difficult" but if it was, it wasnt my volontary purpose, but juzt trying to deeply understand while not staying as an idiot without asking things...im always’trying my best, juzt be aware of this...thanks

7 hours ago, Brad Saucier said:

The file on your flash drive will be named "New01" plus the file extension.  

Yes, thanks Brad. 

So’ yes, both the original file extension and that Renamed New01.

Other point DataFull appeared quite often lately, thought it was the Usb Flash issue, but apparently not,’coz its the Recorded Files extension got saturated.

Am i right ?

Since, i clear/delete one of them, DataFull disappears.

But does the USB Flash can also overfill/saturate by showing up DataFull or it doesnt have any link with that ?

One question

When u recorded a song within MltRec01 that u renamed into "New01".

What do u get on your Usb Flash ?

Both of them ?

or just "New01" (being previously MltRec01) ?

3 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

It's not possible to store MIDI files on the keyboard.  Your files are stored on the flash drive only.  They play directly from the flash drive.  

Ho, of course...now it makes sense and why i was wandering it must be around tye USB Flash...

Ok, i got it.

So, when u load, its reading and playing from the USB, so the Display is obviously the files from Usb.

Ho, i see, i took out USB, an the dedicated "songs midi" from channels 41 to 50 disappeared.

So, obviously, i must delete the USB’s files from any devices or a computer.

Thanks Brad !

From  the Usb Flash, I’ve loaded a Midi file and got saved in the channels 41-50

How to delete it from the Keyboard ? 

17 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

The display name on the keyboard is different.  I don't know of a way to change that.  

Yes and after testing it, i think’i know the Reason.

Actually, i think that the RecordName is by Default in the keyboard’s display, so it wont "change", because all modifications (MEDIA) are operated on the USB FlashDrive.

So, the only way to get that renamed’song is, to just LOAD that "renamed Song",and it be saved on Keyboard as a New File (from 11 to 40). But im not really sure’if it will be reolaced to MLtRec01.

Beyond that, i think all MltRec01...10 will always stay there Unchanged

Therefore, u can only Delete MltRec01 and create a New Song

And thats what i want to do !

33 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

You can name the file during the process of saving it to USB flash drive, after pressing save in the media menu and selecting the type of data and corresponding recording.  

Yes, after a second deep reading i saw that, through MEDIA, Savingnto Flash. Thanks to recall le that !

But, when u save it by renaming song on the USB Flash, does it also Rename it on the Casio keyboard as well ?

Hi folks 

Happy new year qnd best wishes to all of u !

Got those inbuilt default name MldRec01 but wanted to change it, so it doesnt make "doubling" when savingn to USB FlashDrive.

How to rename the Song’s name ?

Juzt let me know, coz searched on handbook but cant find the Renaming procedure and just found "insert a character", but obviouslyn it was’peant for Tone’s Naming..l

So im little lost..l

On 12/26/2023 at 4:26 PM, Brad Saucier said:

Unfortunately all of the hammer action models are 88 keys.  

One thing about this feature which doesn’t really matters, coz on Ctx5000, ive set keys on #4 Heavy and when playing fast arpegio, Only the sound makes that Hammer Effect. Although keys are flexible semi-weighted, t, but there’s still a slight weight that gives the "Heavy" effect.

Anyway, i wont bother on that detail too much’ coz at start’s buying process i didnt want a real Heavy keys and was intimidated by the soft After-touch and still is, Great.

Fhe other ADV is you’re between Synth and GP, So i’ll stay like that ! 

On 12/26/2023 at 6:32 PM, Brad Saucier said:

You may also look at the CDP-S360.  It's a lower price than Privia model but still has the weighted keys.  The sounds are equivalent to a CTX model.  

Yes, i just checked it up, looks quite cool and great, but i think  its still a 88 keys.

But nevermind it reminds me’of a very basic Yamaha DP like P-125 which was very good with 88 heavy keys, but just very Basic real Piano’song and n8thijgnmore, so its quite objective with appropriate selection imo

1 hour ago, Brad Saucier said:

Unfortunately all of the hammer action models are 88 keys.  

Nevermind, doesnt have to be Ebony material like i said before, just to have Heavy Weight...

But i looked to Casiotones CT S1, not sure if its 61 keys tho, but looks like it.  

Anyway, there was that nice PX-S3000 with everything, slimmer but 88 keys...i think its even better than the 560 to me. But Price being 700-800$ is quite excessive, tho

But i looked, it has the DarkMode (NightMode) LCD Touch Screen, the type of visual that would fit for me.... 

However, as im owning ctx-5000, from start wasntempted with semi-weighted keys, coz didnt want to be "too heavy" ; started using Normal mode, then switched to Heavy, its better, but wanted slightly Harder, tho) and disnt want "too long" with 88 keys tho

Nevertheless, as u said, there arent any 61 keys that offers heavy hammer. Oh dear

51 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

Do you mean weighted hammer action 61 keys?

Yes !

forgot that technology, but i also meant to have Ebony/ivory like GrandPiano where generally many  DigitalPiano are set in 88 keys...

Anyway, the real’Ebony key would be out of cost, but some simulated or imitation with resine would do.

But once again, its weighted Hammer Action i meant to say ! 

Is there any keyboard models like PRIVIA (PX-560, PX-S3000) With 61 keys to benefit a cheaper price (being less than 700-800$) ?

Or with 73 keys maybe ?

Just downloaded MM’s Tones and Yours, Brad ! They were awesome.

But as i looked some User’s Tone on how its been created w attack etc.

I was just wandering how we can check the DSP, implying : 

which one, how much have been used and their Order during the Tone’s Setup Creation ?

Question1

Did some DSP Testing’few’days ago, butndon’t Remember’where is the DSP Lising 801-900.

Was it on Long Press EDIT/ < / DSP Edit / OnDSPoff / ...

Then what ? Enter ?

Id’remember doz did’something once and that DSP List appeared unexpectedly..l

Can someone remind me that PATH reaching all those DSPs ?

Question 2

For the DSP list, i know theres the Appendix and the Pdf with some little technical description, but still very’confusing and not obvious...

Does it have some Glossary on those DSP Abreviations, to understand their Terms and their’Functions ?

Coz "...Cab", or "Phazer" , "Del..pno..", idk what it means

Just let me know thanks

Hey guys, thanks

I don't know why i didn't get notifications from this Topic,’and luckily returned after going to qOptical Shop’for new Glasses, but got’some Eye disease RP + One strong Eye and One nearly Blind (its all mess up, iregular wavy view).

So, when reading im w2tching kind like’in Gunshot’s Target Lense (--with one eye only)

Anyway, for me, Bigger as Magnifier is somehow better, but as im’lacking Contrast, id need some DarkMode or NightMode ( like’in Androids).

So the best would be to Tweak to BW : Black (background) White w(Font)

However, this LCD Screen ie pbm for daily duties like’Interphone LCD, juzt like Casio...i never’see’anything, but on Keyboard isnmuch better, but still blurryw/foggy.

So’it’would help me for every’days Use !

Any ideas on that ?

However, i’ve just read yournprevious discussions whifh g1genle’ieeas, i kjow some’Provider linked withnmy Optic Shop that sells Googles,’electronic’googles, Zoomed Devices etc

As for the magnifiyijg Sheet, i wonder how it is called ?

And for Camera, yes, ive tried with my Phone, like to’turn On Camera, and itnmakes like a "Video" BEFORE u Trigger for’Picture !

It does help’z lot, but i need’somekind of Stand ! Also’theres thatnSheet’Stand we have, so i’could’fix somethijg out there theough the Holes.

But have no’idea with whifh Device i need and then how to fix that, so it lays’on LCD Screen like Flat’surface 

Anyway, seomthing like Magnify Sheet on the LCD or something soighoty above it, but what and how ?

Just feel free’to post me any ideas that comes out theough ur mind !  It be very helpful

thanks my’Friends

24 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

Only CTX tones are compatible.  The sound architecture is different among different series of keyboards.  

Ok. 

Then, i’ll check with Martin for his Tones’Update and yours !

Can u load on the CTX, any Tones from any Fasio Models ? Like to import betweej Casios ?

As far as i saw, Privia PX dont, coz they use HEX Layer, therefore, different Engine...but which models are compatible with the CTX ?

Does it’has’to’he’exflusively’only’between CT X Series like 700, 3000, 5000 etc ?

Although,’i’ve seen somewhere’some Converter but that was Rythm, but does it has something similar for Tones ? 

LIKE i can upload a CTK’and convert’it’into CTX ?

Or u just can't ?

Or any other option ?

Juet let’me know, thanks

its for’expanding py Library a bit

G some folks User tQuestion about DSP

I edited my Tone with DSP options then i came back to DSP EDIT, then the Screen shows me OffDSPOff, im assuming’its "OFF", but it has’some Good Results. 

Then, when i switch it on, OnDSPOff, the’Sound is all messed-up, unbalanced and crazily wrong...am i doing’something wrong ?

However, is OffDSPOff mode is your edited OutCome u made ?

And is OnDSPOff the Original Piece by Default’?

Or is it the other way around ?

Impying OnDSP being your DSP Edition u just created and the OffDSP being the defaut (-before u’created) ?

Other sidenote.

When downloadin some folks user Tones ctx, can u save them them on the Ct-X5000 

Or u can just load/play them  directly from a plugged FlashDrive or’not at all ?

Lets say, u’made a new Tone’with DSP, I download it and i can have it on my ct-x5000 just like if i’created ’my own one and be on 801-900 ? RIGHT ?

Please help me with these Functions

Thanks

On 12/19/2023 at 5:47 AM, Mclandy said:

A DSP consists of up to 4 effects "Modules" linked in a serial "chain", where the output of one module becomes the input to the next.  So, for example, a DSP for a guitar sound might consist of a "Drive" effect connected to a "Compressor" effect connected to an "Amp" effect connected to a "Delay" effect.   But a DSP can be anything from 1 to 4 modules, and the chain sequence is important because you can get a different effect using exactly the same modules in a different order.  Some DSPs even use the same kind of module more than once. However, the keyboard doesn't allow you to build arbitrary DSPs from scratch, you have to start from an existing DSP definition.  The number and order of the modules in each DSP is fixed, but you can modify the parameters of each module (see DSP Effect List on page 132 in the manual).

 

In the Appendix document, they have a listing of "preset" DSPs 801 through 900, which you can use in a tone that you are editing, and it lists the modules in each.  But in addition, many of the keyboard built-in Tones use DSPs, and you can select one of those Tones (1-800) to use that Tone's DSP for your tone editing.  Note that not all keyboard Tones have a DSP, but the Tone List in the Appendix indicates which ones do.  However, the module makeup of those "built-in Tone" DSPs is not documented anywhere, so that's what this document is.   The numbers 1 through 4 simply show the position in the chain of each module.

 

By the way, most of this is explained clearly in the notes at the bottom of the table.  Did you read it?

Oof ! Thanks too much for ur instructive explanation that i had tonread couple’of times to understand your technical litteracy and specially your hand-Notes on last page...was tired, eye 0bm on top of it...so, while Reading, my eyes saw what they wanted to see...therefore, i’skipped many things lNvm, its’just’me, i appologize to u for re-explaining the whole thing again. But this’time, i’don’t know, it came out clearier and understood everything.

Ok, your Pdf’with Tables, shows in term of "values", the positions within the chain and’ofc the Appendix shows you the Tone’s list’with its specific DSP applied to it.

Ok, u’gave me a great Guitar example w(which im clueless in knowledge), but for any other instrument (-piano, vocal, PADS), how do u know which DSP and how many DSP u need ?

Anyway, thanks’for your patience and effort,’i really’do appreciate’it and again, im’kijdnof’Guilty’if’i turned out’to be "difficult", but it’isnt my’fault’ life’s like this, and i wouldnt bothered u if i had’perfect’vision and a great Compositor like’Hans Zimmer...other wayanyway, hope u understand me

3 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

I didn't edit the tones at all.  Everything is default. 

Ok. 

For the sound being slightly different, maybd its juet me, i’ll figure out what was that. 

Nevertheless, most important is they are the same Name.

Ho, just to mention, found MM’s packs in downloads Files, the one that he used and talked about on his Video ! 👌🤘

21 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

560 has exactly the same preset piano tones as the 5S.  CTX was the first demo, PX second.  The demo was done by the same MIDI file played back on both models.  I recorded the file myself.  

Yes, thanks for recalling me that they both Privia, so logically same GrandPiano

Yes, i knew it, its CTX.

Yes, indeed, same song then as playback...

Great recording tho

Anyway, still wandering why your StagePiano looks Louder in Timbres (like 002 GrandPiano), from your’Demo, than mine with a Brighter tone on my CTX, and used same Headphones on both.

Did u changed some settings on your StagePiano’s Tone or is it exactly the same in-built Tone by Default like’mine ?

20 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

Yes it's the first tone on each model.  Stage Piano on CTX, Grand Piano Concert on the PX-5S.  

Yes, i got this right. But in your clip which was the First instrument u played ? (For me it sounded like the CTX)

And is your CTX with 61 keys or 88, tho ?

Just wandering of your great Piano Sound...did u put any effects, because when im playing on mine, ofc if its the PX, then id understand y i dont have th1t same sound. Now if its really’from your CTX, Im still wandering why i have some BrightnPiano sound while yours is more Melow, with some Loudness ?

Or maybe is just the midi Conversion into Wave or Mp3 that u have on your Clip ?

Ho, for Privia PX, Ithought it was the 560 and not the 5S. My Bad...

Is it a good one compared to the 560, tho ?

2 hours ago, Brad Saucier said:

DSP in the CTX series is great.  Two main improvements are the ability to use more DSP effects at once, and the addition of a large selection of guitar amp simulation effects.  

 

As far as downloads, if you are on a computer browser, you'll see a "downloads" button on the navigation bar near the top of the home page.  This takes you to a page of categories.  For Mike's sounds, go to Casio official.  CTX is under "others".  For those made by users, go to the "community created" section.  My sounds are there.  

 

Regarding the CTX PX piano demo, both used the very first preset tone for each model.  That would be Stage Piano on CTX. 

Hey Brad, so goad’to hear ur verynuseful’infos !

Im so’amazed than happy about the CTX Series !!! WOOW

I’ve watched twice Martin’s Youtube Video on DSP and decided to test it (while u werenreplying me ) and came out with awesome stuff id never expect...ofc its not’perfect, but i’got an idea on those optional features and that just in one Tone.

Then for my questions, i think i’found most of them all, like the DSP Numerical Location, yest they’re from 800 up to 900...

But still some features to be well adapted, thate quite hard, but globally’Martin’s Video was so helpful and so simply explained’that even non-english speaking people’would’easily understand !

However, yes DSP is great and found out that u don’t really need a doubled, or triple or quadruple Layer to set Vocal or Strings while u can get that in 1 Tone.

Thehn’ u’re tellingnme u can put more DSP. OMG ! And i had that feeling somehow but wasnt sure and thanks for highlighting me this !

Now for DSP effects, i saw the Guitar and when i put it on, it wasnt showing up.

I dont know why it wasnt crying out Loud, maybe because i edited that Tone on some PAD or some Tone edit feature that hidded it or because PAD doesnt support Guitars effects ?

Anyway, i can guess that its coz of PAD, while’if i’used a Piano or Organ asnstartijg point, and if id set Guitar FX id have heard it...

or am’i totally’wrong ? 

therefore wh1t was that Reason, the Guitar didnt show up ?

Do u have any ideas ?

On the other hand, as Martin said, theres DSP EDIT where first Left arrow is OffDSPOff. Ive tested it and if i got it’right, if u put ON u hear just’the in-built Tojes by default’Without DSP when its OnDSPOff, and its on "OFF" u hear ur Edited DSP that u created. Am i right ?

Now, for Download, on Tablet, i see that Optional Button but didnt know where its Path coz deeply located in an unknown category. Thanks for brightening me this !

Concerning your CTX & PX Clip, i just cant believe its the 1st one, StagePano.

But one question, did u played first on CTX or on PX ? Coz understood that it was on CTX, then Playbacked on PX. Am i right ?

Anyway, thanks for ur quick response

On 11/30/2020 at 11:17 PM, Mclandy said:

It took me a little while to figure out how this works, but essentially one of the "Items" you can configure when creating a new User Tone on the CT-X5000 is a DSP setup.  But you can't create them from scratch, you have to "copy" one that is already built into the system, and you can edit its internal parameters from there (maybe that's a feature available on Workstations?).   You can copy a DSP either from one of the built-in Tones (not all of them have a DSP, though), or from a set of 100 DSP "standard" setups (not associated with any Tone) that are outlined in the Appendix document.  But as you are trying to select a DSP to use, it's not always easy to tell what you're getting.  So just to have all the information in one place as a handy reference, I created this document that shows all of the possible DSPs you can copy into a new User Tone, and which DSP sub-Modules (up to 4) that each contains, and in what order.  For more information, see my additional notes on the last page of the document.  Comments, questions, and suggestions welcome!

 

Note: Updated PDF to include alternating shading in lines of table to make it more readable 11/30/2020 6:45PM EST

          Another update to make some minor formatting improvements, and to better organize and word some of the notes at the end  12/1/ 2020 5:00PM EST

 

 

Casio CT-X5000 User Tone DSPs.pdf 56.18 kB · 112 downloads

Hi Mclandy, 

I’ve just seen ur work on PDF and about your Table im trying tonunderstand how’it works but got some questions

If i understand, on left column is the List of Tones, then on the Row are the 28 DSP Effects, right ?

Also, i got it that each Tone has its own related DSP.

But i dont understand why are 1-4 scattered around, and few 1,2 also...

What are those numbers ? Is that the Preferred Value that you should Set for the Perfect Match or is it the Default in-built Setup ?

Could u clarify me how it works ?

Thanks

As I've been asking for differnce on Sound's Quality which led to the HEX Layer then searched on AIX and AI5s comparisonm i've seen many awesome existing threads and im reallt sorry to have made  doubling but i have found nice stuff.

However  i've heard Brad's Clip  Sound between ctx-5000 & Privia PX, i was amazed about the ctx sound which convinced me  to adore it more without any regrets.

Also i've seen  the fantastic Youtube Video with Mike Martin (where thought it was Brad in person but still i know that both of u are from a great Casio Team and i dont underestimate both of ur talents.

Regardless, Silviano mentionned that CTX has great DSP and it watched with Martin's Video.

One word, i was so amazed about what can do DSP which i never knew its feature- qnd  I think i found that i wanted to have by acquiring that HEX Layer Feature at all cost, but figured out that with a great DSP in one Tone, then combined with 4 Layers, I think i can acchieve that 6 Layers Feature Quality. Beside this, i was just so amazed by the Realistic Sound of the CTX through AIX Engine and i think thats what i wanted to get.
On the other hand i see the PX Potential too but I think that in my case i dont go for Upgrading and crush ;qny Bucks for it while im just decent Pianist and there's so much to do with CTX that i still need to discover and test 

So far, im just so satisfied  with DSP 

Nevertheless, i saw Martin's Video on CTX5000 showing DSP  and explaining roughly how it should be used to be set in right way, but i got confused with the Number he chose on DSP Edit,  coz seen that mostly were at 800s and meanwhile he also loaded his Pad and Tones Instrument Creationsm so i got confused with selecting the Right DSP Value for it....and he also mentionned that in Casio Music Forum u could download those DSP creations and use on ur Tones and Songs, but got no idea where to find them as im still looking.

Nevertheless, he also created User Tone through  Functions and barely understand what those Attk, delay, cutoff,  do and how to set them up in good way like u want.
I sthere some video on how to experiment, test those Features ? and something about DSP as well ?One more thing about DSP, if understand well, yu can set it in a Tone being layered, then u can then u can layer in 4 Layers (u1&2; L1&2), right ?

Beside the fact of having only 4 Layers instead of 6, i don't see a very Big difference, yes theres ofc in richer Deepness, but to be honnest, i was really amazed with a Tone with DSP layered with MelwString was awesome, coz it gave that Synth Spacial Sound Deepness Effect-like Sountrack and this is the Thing i was looking for .
Also, it might not 6 Layers, but with the Realistic DSP settled into 4 Layers, imo I think it has a betterQuality sound than a 6 or 8 Layered Artificial Synth Sound...

Also, other point about the Plastic Keys that isnt Ebony (or Real GrandPiano), since i changed the Touch Key from 3 to 4, it gave that aspect of it. Again, with the Sound affected to the Touch is Amazing and i was poly much convinced that  it was a Real GrandPiano.

About Brad's SoundCloud Clip in testing Piano Tones between CTX5000 verses Privia PX, where obviously that 1st part was the CTX, i was wandering which Tone it was, because im so amazed to find it back and to use it in my Composing.
Brad, what was that Piano Tone u used for ur Testing ?  

Just feel free to let me know about those willing features i wanted to know

Thanks you all !