Jair77

18 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said:

 

The cable may be faulty.  Try it with Win7 or XP again.  If it's still working with those, then a driver issue is more likely.  The cable itself requires a driver, not the keyboard.  Keyboards without USB or other computer interface ports do not use drivers.  

this its the same cable with i used since at 10 years in my WK3000. i follow you recomendation and try firts with windows 8 in one tablet for test the IDE-2 again. also use Win 7.

Thanks

i have this special cable usb to midi din for connect my Casio WK3000 keyboard to pc; at 2015 working with WindowsXP and Windows7, but now with Windows10 dont working. already try with 3 laptops and all show the same error: "MIDI Timeout" 

On 4/6/2015 at 8:47 PM, - T - said:

The IDES-2 Data Management software was designed to work with the WK-3000 via its 5-pin DIN MIDI-IN/OUT connections connected to a Roland MPU-401, or similar, AT-bus interface card in older PC's:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roland_MPU-401AT.jpg

 

 

Note: IDES-3 and IDES-4 and new versions 5.X and 6.X Data Management software WILL NOT WORK WITH THE WK-3000.  IT MUST BE IDES-2.  The IDES-2 software can be downloaded from:

 

http://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/emi/music_casio/en/wk3-20en.exe

 

 

and the IDES-2 User's Manual from:

 

http://ftp.casio.co.jp/pub/emi/music_casio/en/wk3man-20en.zip

 

 

As Gary has already said, you should not need any drivers.  That is because the only thing that needs drivers are the devices that CONNECT DIRECTLY TO THE PC.  In this case, the WK-3000 does not connect directly to the PC.  It connects to the USB-MIDI adapter.  Since the USB-MIDI adapter connects directly to the PC, it is the device that would need a driver, but if it is "Class Compliant", it will work with the driver that is already built-in to Windows and should not need any additional drivers.  However, the "Class Compliant" driver provides only limited communications buffer support and therefore does not support large file or large or complex sysex message transfers.  If you are, in fact, running IDES-2 software and still getting "time-out" errors, then you may be running into buffer support problems from the USB-MIDI adapter "Class Compliant" driver.  Your only way around this is if the USB-MIDI adapter manufacturer offers a "full support" driver that can be installed in lieu of the built-in "Class Compliant" driver, or you need to find a USB-MIDI adapter that is NOT "Class Compliant" (That may be difficult these days.) and comes with an installable driver that supports the full MIDI Spec.

 

I saw mention above of the M-Audio MIDI Sport.  A Bing search turned up a lot of hits for "MIDI Sport drivers", so that tells me that it is either not "Class Compliant", or that M-Audio has already recognized the need for optional drivers, so that may be the ultimate solution to this entire IDES-2/WK-3000 dilema.

 

As an interim workaround, if you are only getting timeout errors when transferring large numbers of small files (rhythms, voices, etc) between the PC and the WK-3000's User Memory, cut back on the number of files you are trying to transfer at one time.  Because of the "Class Compliant" driver limitations, if I try to send 100 files from my PC to my WK-7500, I get no error messages, but 14, 15, or 16 files consistently just get lost, and I end up with only 84 or 85 or 86 files at the other end, and that is with a direct USB-to-USB connection.  Others have reported intermittent timeout errors on various actions.  For me, I just limit my file transfers to no more than 15 files at a time.

 

Good luck !

Hello, i have the same problem with Windows10.

i supose that windows update all drivers and damage the old program old USB_Midi _Pin driver

I try install the old IDE for Wk3000, i used Archive.org for download these old program.

wk3-20en.exe

you can use you WK3000 using to Midi in/out with other keyboard.

i use CTX and Korg keyboard for play styles and the WK3000 for playing song.

Actually me have one CTX-5000 and 2 old WK3000, and one microarrangler KORG Mar1.

i am work one page on Facebook name "Wk3000 casio" where put styles ckf  and converted as .sty & Ac7 in future..

Note: the CTX700 is more sheap that CXT5000; also you can use CXT3000

dont Yet...🤕

Eureka, I've done it.

I managed to connect my old traditional M-AUDIO midi controller of 5 pins to the Casio CTX-5000 keyboard via USB-B!

I used a series of MIDI-USB conversion cables and an Android mobile application that has very low latency.

It is important to mention that the cell phone you must use must have compatibility with USB-OTG technology.

I send you a simple drawing where show how to configure the input-output midi cables and the configuration of the Android APP.

It seems that there are no risks, but I am not responsible if you connect your equipment wrong.

Be careful when connecting the USB-B male plug (printer) to the Casio CTX! It has a polarity, but you can damage it if you connect it wrong.

I did it at dawn, I couldn't take video because I had to get up early to come to work.

Note: in some times the app keys on hold when excess play more 10 keys of polyphony; maybe need other similar application that accepts more polyphony. 

I hope you are interested, motivated and useful.🙂

Post Data: I was also able to send Midi from the CTX-5000 to an old keyboard with a 5-pin MIDI input, the WK-3500. When I have time I will share a diagram of how I did it.

i like these upgrade

solo queda usar un programa externo como el kontank y jalar l libreria de bateria del roland D5 en el canal 10 de midi para mejorar el sonido de bateria del casio. no lo he intentado pero estaria genia si funcionara.

Many old bone musicians are disappointed that casio has moved the DIN connector to MIDI, since with that connector we could connect our old controllers and sequencers.
probably CASIO thought to make a young keyboard and therefore omitted that connector, 
since its technology is not that complicated; In addition to the most recognized music brands still include it (AVID, Roland, Korg, Yamaha)
I have a ctx5000 and I have been considering adding an arduino as a midi reader and a DIN5 converter to be able to connect an external midi keyboard to it.
I hope not to damage the USB-A/B port.

I couldn't get the Casio MZ in Mexico, that's why I bought the Casio CTX500 with which I am very entertained.

Apparently the keyboard from Hong Kong: Medeli AKX10 is sold in some stores in the US for 700 dlls.

This keyboard has the option of loading external SF2 music sources and emulating samples from other keyboards, in addition to the fact that its .STY styles are 80% compatible with those of the Yamaha, and it has style conversion software.

Here in Mexico they don't sell the Medeli AKX10, only a copy of the Mideli A1000 with another name like KBoard's MK1000 for 650 dlls.

I hope that in the music stores of El Paso TX they sell the Medeli AKX10 to go buy it and be able to play with both 2 keyboards.

I couldn't get the Casio MZ in Mexico, that's why I bought the Casio CTX500 with which I am very entertained.

Apparently the keyboard from Hong Kong: Medeli AKX10 is sold in some stores in the US for 700 dlls.

This keyboard has the option of loading external SF2 music sources and emulating samples from other keyboards, in addition to the fact that its .STY styles are 80% compatible with those of the Yamaha, and it has style conversion software.

Here in Mexico they don't sell the Medeli AKX10, only a copy of the Mideli A1000 with another name like KBoard's MK1000 for 650 dlls.

I hope that in the music stores of El Paso TX they sell the Medeli AKX10 to go buy it and be able to play with both 2 keyboards.

No pude conseguir el Casio MZ en México, por eso compré el Casio CTX500 con el que estoy muy entretenido.

Al parecer el teclado de Hong Kong: Medeli AKX10 se vende en algunas tiendas de USA por 700 dlls.

Este teclado tiene la opción de cargar fuentes musicales SF2 externas y emular muestras de otros teclados, además de que sus estilos .STY son compatibles en un 80% con los de Yamaha, y cuenta con un software de conversión de estilos.

Aquí en México no venden la Medeli AKX10, solo una copia de la Mideli A1000 con otro nombre como MK1000 de KBoard por 650 dlls.

Espero que en las tiendas de música de El Paso TX vendan el Medeli AKX10 para ir a comprarlo y poder tocar con los 2 teclados.

Creo que es porque el CTX5000 no tiene tweeters incorporados, solo tiene woofers duales que amplifican los medios y los agudos. A veces he pensado en abrir mi teclado y ponerle 2 tweeters piezoeléctricos agudos para mejorar la calidad de reproducción.

It would be great if there was an update to the Casio CTX-3000/5000 that would allow you to assign sounds or wav phrases to the 4 pads, that would help trigger rhythmic sequences, choruses or cymbals that sound more real.

yo limpio las teclas d mi wk3000 cada 2 an~os; desarmo las 3 laminas metalicas que se encuentran bajo el teclado, remuevo con cuidado la placa base PCB, limpio los contactos de las gomas y los pads con toallas humedas y seco con servilleta de papel, luego coloco tinta conductiva (con forma de pintura para un~as )que venden en las tiendas de refacciones de partes electronicas, dejo secar 1 hora y regreso las gomas y la base.

la base de las gomas tiene un ligero toque de carbon conductivo parecido al de los controles remotos que con el calor tienden a desgastarse y a ensuciarse provocando malos contactos entre los pads sensores del speed o touch.

en mi caso  yo estudie electronica, pero cualquiera que tenga cuidado pudiera darle limpieza a esa zona del teclado.

aun asi te suguiero que lo lleves a un servicio tecnico para que realice dicha limpieza interna de los contactos pads y gomas bajo las teclas.

Cierto, yo adquiri el Wk3000 de casio de segunda mano en 25 dolares, le limpie las gomas de las teclas y le carge Waves. 

Siempre Quise cargarle la bateria Wav con samples Korg, pero no encontre informacion en internet para hacerlo.

probablemente si redujera la resolucion de los baudios del sampling Wav de 44khz de 16bits a 22khz a 8 bits se logre reducir la dimencion del archivo y colocar mas samples.

habra que gacer pruebas con el sofware de waves.

https://music.casio.com/es/data_ex2/before.html

before i used 2 layers at same time:

layer 1: 359 VaseqBs2 + Modulation SINus on vibrate

layer 2: 372 EdmBass + DSP saw (low volume)

I want will try to do experiments with the sound: 525 ZURNA of CT-X5000

Thanks 🙂

i dont have idea why casio not incude this value information "list sound" in the manual.