pax-eterna

4 hours ago, Jokeyman123 said:

Here you go-I'm glad this group saves all the content-I wonder the servers don't burst! Plus, I forget my own work sometimes! Often I google to find my own old posts-it usually works quite well. I remembered what I called this, typed it in google, and there it was at the top of the hits. Happy New Year!

Excellent, thanks!

On 12/9/2021 at 12:01 AM, Jokeyman123 said:

If you are ambitious enough-you might want to consider modding the key assembly like I did for the 350-has an identical keyboard assembly-I've studied the construction of both and was able to make a huge improvement in eliminating mechanical key noise in mine-which happens almost entirely due to the felt cushions being compressed-both the upper and lower felts compress over time and now the fulcrums are closer to hitting on the plastic frames the felt strips are mounted on. I just did an extensive felt mod to one of my Alesis Fusions for this reason-which has a much heavier Fatar TP40 action-and also had become too noisy for my taste-not unique to Casio-if you were to shop around for other brands-study their respective user groups-you will find, almost all the other majors end up with this problem in time, even the most costly workstations. I believe the newer PX series has improved on the amount of felt used to quiet the keys, not so simple a re-design, as any even slight change in the geometry of how the key swings feels huge when you play, has to be done just right. I am pretty sure, the front to back difference between the PX5s and PX3000 key assembly will not be the same, since the entire hammer mechanism has been re-designed. I don't think there are too many PX3000s that are worth cannibalizing just for the key mechanism! I would look at all the used parts vendors-see if you can get some eyeball views of the parts for each and compare physical dimensions, before  trying to find a complete possibly foobared PX-S3000 to destroy. There may be a parts vendor that has a key assembly-I am pretty sure Casio will not sell a part like this to anyone but an OEM repair shop.

Would you happen to have a link handy for where you posted info on doing this? I am also thinking of re-spraying the PX to another colour (can be done a guy at another forum did it ) so maybe I can kill two objectives in the one opening session

Yes interesting post Jokey....one thing I have found is that the USB port (front panel) CAN supply power to an external device. I use it to power the Midi Expression iO (which gives me expression pedal and "half-pedaling" for the sustain pedal) works really well. I only use that as an example that sometimes things work in a manner that one would not expect. I tried that as the USB spec (and Casio built the PX within spec for both USB and MIDI afaics) is standard, it port SHOULD provide +/- 5v and it turned out it did. Or thereabouts and certainly enough to run the device.

I have noticed over the years that a lot of keyboards use the same ribbon cable and clamp connectors for the keybeds connection to the mobos as well...not saying they are the same just they all use the same method. As for MIDI, there may be a slight timing difference between using midi or the ribbon cable, but I daresay noticeable only on the test bench and not in real-time.

thanks, but it is not just the noise. The sideways movement of the keys has become excessive as well. I mean I may not even go ahead and simply sell it off, and look at something else...haha, might even strip it of the keybed reduce the size (front to back) and add it to another keybed via MIDI, in a modded casing...who knows. Limited only by imagination

haha, hopefully it is NOT just a vocoder

As long as there are no master EFX set yes it works...the MFX are hard-wired to stereo. So if you want a bit of say, slapback echo on a bass sound, you'd have to use the insert efx on the part. Bearing in mind you can have only one insert efx per part. So if you also need a compressor, you are out of luck.

Cool, thanks jokeyman   Pretty sure we cannot buy from the US site, and in Oz I think their dealer/distributor agreements prevent direct sales, but I'll have a look anyway.

3 hours ago, Joe Muscara said:

I would guess otherwise. Since this action exists in numerous Casio models, there probably are replacements in the service chain or whatever they do. Whether you can buy one directly is another matter, but I would be surprised if a tech were unable to get a replacement if they needed it. The PX-5S, PX-560, and PX-360 are still listed as products on casiomusicgear.com, so they are considered "current." I would expect to be able to get them fixed for a while after they are no longer current.

Thanks Joe. Yes I have since learned from Casio Australia that they are obtainable. $650 Now I need to decide if I want to spend that or put it toward, possibly, the new Numa X Piano from Studiologic. Trouble with those is I have heard that first shipments are still way behind (COVID and supply chain issues) and that even in the US it will be at least mid February 2022 before units start to arrive. Which means (usually) even later for Oz,

Yes I did like the -560 and in fact about 9 months cast around for one down here...none available.

Thanks guys.

@Jokeyman123 yes I tend to agree that Casio would not sell me a replacement keybed for the PX-5 (although I also doubt if any even exist anymore).

Ok, I might have to offload the PX for the best price I can get and look at alternatives.

Again, my thanks.

My old PX-5S keybed is so noisy now it is not fun to play (unless audio is very loud haha) so I was wondering if I can find a used PX-S3000 (or 1000) and swap the keybeds over to the PX-5? Reason is I still would need the MIDI capability of the 5S. The S3000 is not quite the same really.

They seem to have the same specs, but as always the devil is in the detail so I thought I would ask here and see if any Casio gurus could chime in with an opinion.

*bump*  I'd be interested in this too.

Would there be any way the Acoustic Piano sounds on the PX-S3000 could be somehow transferred or copied over to the PX-5S?

Just wondering how to assign a DSP to another part, say, lower? All I can get from the manual is it is, apparently, only available for part one. I can find no clear instruction on how to apply one to another part.

Thanks

Trying to turn off the sustain pedal for a part in a setup registration, successfully found the location under ctrl editing, turned the pedal to off, exited back out to the registration screen saved it to the slot, but the sustain pedal is still working.

I tried turning off Freeze as well, but nothing seems to work and all the Registrations are not recognising this setting.

Any ideas?

EDIT: My bad, I'd forgotten I'd started using the pedal unit. I was turning off the Sustain Pedal, it needed to be turned off under Pedal Unit instead.

The USB port can provide power out to an external device, however when I connect, the 3000 automatically tries to mount the port. Can this be turned off? All I want the port for is power, not data.

Unfortunately when it is set on Mounting one cannot access registrations or any other thing on it.

Can anyone who actually knows this please respond? I'm not about to spend another $140 on this pedal (and before anyone asks I am NOT in the USA so please do not post links to cheaper!!)  if it cannot do this. In fact I am thinking that if it can't, the PX is going back tbh.

*bump* - anyone?

Can the messages generated by the SP-34 pedal be set (or is it auto??) to go out the USB MIDI out port, as well as to the local sound generator?

And why you'd put Modulation with Portamento? I mean who came up with these combinations anyway? Maybe Modulation with volume, or even pan, that makes sense, but not porta.

On 6/7/2019 at 9:38 PM, Rod Tompkins said:

 

Headhunter, I just ran some tests with the MIDI monitor in Pianoteq 6 and can confirm that the PX-S3000 will do what you want. I have a Yamaha FC7 expression pedal hooked up to my PX-S3000 with Pedal Target set to Expression and it sends CC#11 to Pianoteq. Knob Set #7 (seen in the chart Brad shared above) causes Knob 2 to send CC#11.

 

The majority of the Knob Sets on the PX-S3000 send CC messages from both knobs. These are preset only, but as you already mentioned, it won't matter which two CC# messages they send since you can map them to any parameter you want in your Keyscape app using MIDI Learn.

 

Here's a list of what each Knob Set sends. You'll notice that some knobs send on different channels, multiple channels or not at all. Knob Set 8 does some weird stuff like sending inverse values on different channels since it is controlling multiple parameters in the PX-S3000 for the desired function. Sets 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6 behave normally as MIDI controllers: The knob all the way down sends a value of 0, and the knob all the way up sends a value of 127.

 

Hope all this is useful to anyone wondering if the PX-S3000 will work for you as a MIDI controller. 

 

 

PX-S3000 Knob Set MIDI Controllers
Knob Set	Knob 1		Knob 2
	CC#	Channel	CC#	Channel
1	74	1	71	1
2	-	-	91	1
3	93	1	91	1
4	73	1	72	1
5	76	1	77	1
6	78	1	77	1
7	65, 5	1	1	1
8	7	1, 2, 5	-	-
9	10	1	10	2
10	7	3	10	3
11	93	1, 2, 3	91	1, 2, 3
12	-	-	-	-
13	-	-	-	-
14	-	-	-	-

no-one noticed there is no CC1 there?

Just tried again, and the registration does NOT recall those settings! So I will now try setting the Auto-Resume.....

EDIT: ok it only recalls, if indeed it does at all from a registration) when AutoResume is on. If that's off Hi-Res off is not saved. So that works for me

Thanks Brad - so, similar to the "trick" on the PX-5S. (rhetorical)

So at boot it defaults to piano 1, correct? So if I select auto-resume it will load those system settings, and even if I change sounds it won't change?

I have noticed that even if I edit these settings and then save to a registration it still reverts back to the factory system settings....are they actually saved in the registration?

EDIT: sorry for the late reply, for some reason I did not get a "ping" for your reply.

For example Hi-Res MIDI out, touch response etc?

I set these yesterday but when I turned the unit on again today they were back to Hi-Res ON and  touch to normal....

Thanks Mike.