thanks for the quick response….I used a stage setting in the 9 bank and created 4 zones for for 4 different sounds and, because of the truly great editor, was able to assign sustain pedal to just piano, and things like reverb, delay to just guitar and elec piano, and the only zone that looks to the mod wheel is organ….I could set pedal 2 for the leslie if you think that will work better -because the sustain for keys is no real sustain at all - but I do have other pedals that can serve as what? on/off ? because where would I look to try and simulate ramp up and ramp down and speed of "leslie on"? the mod wheel choices do affect the sound but I am pissing in the wind and like you mentioned - it is different for each pre set- os I have chosen Gospel and Rock 2 for the stage settings I would like to have even the slightest perceptible change of leslie speed. thanks again for begin there DBlue