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Terence There is no discrete "delete" function for User Rhythms. You would normally just overwrite data in that location with new data when you need to, but you can use the Pattern Sequencer's "Edit" function to perform a "Clear" operation per the procedure entitled "To clear all rec areas included in the currently selected rhythm" in the lower portion of the right hand column of Page 120 of the manual, but all that does is just "clear" the data. You would then need to press EXIT three times to leave edit mode, use the the Data Wheel or ( - ) / ( + ) buttons to select the location number of the User Rhythm to be deleted, and perform a "Store" operation. If you do not perform this last step to "store" the "cleared" data, you have not accomplished anything. This will still leave the original data's "name" in the original location. To remove that, you need to perform a "rename" prior to the "store" operation. I am not sure why you would want to do this, as the same amount of memory is set aside for each User Rhythm location, whether you have data stored in it or not. This applies to User Tone memory, as well, but does not apply to Song Sequencer or User Music Preset memory. The amount of memory available for new Song Sequencer or User Music Preset data is determined by what has already been stored in that memory previously. Regards, Ted

Sorry for that "insult", Brad ! I have corrected it post-haste. I hope the whole day isn't going to go this way ! Lots of catching up to do today! Ted

Bryan There have been several threads similar to this over on the Yamaha arranger forum in the past couple of years. If your laptop has a mix of USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 ports, use a USB 2.0 port. Some keyboard models/brands do not work well (or at all) with USB 3.0 ports, even though they are supposed to be backward compatible. The same applies to both Win-8 and Win-10 systems. There does not appear to be anything "across the board" when it comes to USB-MIDI systems working with the newer hardware and operating systems. Some models and brands have no problems working with them, while others have no end of problems. That is to say, one model/brand of keyboard will work with one model/brand of Win-8/10 system and not with another, while a different model/brand of keyboard will be just the opposite. If yours is not a USB 3.0/2.0 compatibility problem, you can try Compatibility Mode mentioned above by Scott, but I would not hold out much hope for that. Microsoft covered that in a publication some years ago. Compatibility Mode interfaces older "programs" to newer operating systems, but is ineffective at the "driver" or "hardware" compatibility level. If the problem is an operating system compatibility issue, one suggestion has been to reinstall the operating system, but I can not recommend that, as it is only effective in a minority of cases, and usually only works on older Win-7 systems that have been user upgraded to the newer systems. Good luck ! Regards, Ted

Rishi From what you describe, it appears that whatever caused the original loss of power (commercial power failure, adapter failure, etc) was accompanied by an initial surge that has damaged the circuitry inside your CTK-2400, that is going to require it to be repaired or replaced. As for your performance in three days, I would say that your efforts would be best spent trying to come up with a temporary or permanent replacement (borrow / rent / purchase). Regards, Ted

Johnathon ! Many thanks ! I stand completely corrected. The webpage banner for the iConnectMIDI2+ bills it as: "Mulit-host 2X2 MIDI interface with Audio passThru" Without reading the fine print, I have been taking the word host to mean the it was a host device, but after finally reading the fine print, I see that it really means that it will connect to two host devices (computers) - not that it is a host device itself. Once again, I have come up short by violating my own policy of not giving advice on equipment to which I do not have direct access, or on procedures that I do not use myself. For that, I thoroughly apologize to Autolycus and now advise him to disregard everything I have posted above and to seek advice from those who have direct access to, or own/use, the equipment in question. Perhaps this time I will learn my lesson, so as not to mislead others. Regards, Ted

The Tascam unit would not work for you at all. It is an AUDIO interface - not a MIDI interface. The M-Audio unit would work for you - after a fashion, but since it contains no stand-alone HOST processing capability, it would still require a computer - which you have stated that you do not want. Basically, the M-Audio unit just interfaces the 5-pin-DIN-MIDI connectors of your foot pedal unit to a USB port on your computer, where as the iConnectMIDI2 unit takes the place of a computer, without all of the unreliable frailties of a computer.

A "major bug" with such a simple, common procedure would have an enormously obvious affect on every PX-360 deployed, to date, and should have, by now, generated numerous responses from other concerned or disappointed or frustrated or furious PX-360 owners, but so far, we have not had one single "Me too !" reply to this thread in over 6 months. That, plus the fact that Casio Support was unable to replicate the problem, should indicate that there is a problem with your particular unit that needs technical attention, and that the current situation is not going to change until that is done. If by insisting that the problem is a "bug", you are holding out for a firmware update that you can download, that will never happen. The PX-360 is not equipped with user updateable firmware, so whether the problem is a "bug" or a defect with your particualr unit, it is still going to take a physical shipment to a service center. The up side to this is that it pretty much eliminates the chance that you could have caused this by codes sent from a DAW, as the DAW would not have access to the firmware. Anything you might do with a DAW would be erased by a factory reset. The Rhythm (Auto-accompaniment) engines on your PX-360 and my CTK-7000/WK-7500 are pretty much the same, so I tried the PianoBallad1 Rhythm, that you described, at various tempos. When I press the NORMAL/FILL-IN button, there is a one beat break (pause) in the lead piano arpeggio tone and the drums, but the strings, and whatever I am playing on the keyboard, continue unabated, and the beat indicator keeps perfect time across the "break". This is not a "bug", but just a manifestation of what I originally described. If your PX-360 is "loosing time" or "loosing the beat" during this, then there is definitely a defect with your unit. Several of us have suggested that you go to a local music dealer and try one of their PX-360 units, if for no other reason but to prove this thing to yourself - one way or the other, but so far, you have not commented on that, so I assume you have decided not to do so, but you have not commented on that either (no local dealer, too far to nearest dealer, local dealers do not stock PX-360, etc). Consequently, I sense that, for some reason, you are "playing it close to the vest" on that suggestion, but as long as you do that, it limits our ability to help you.

Since the FCB-1010 has only the 5-pin-DIN MIDI connections and the WK-7500 has only a USB-MIBI connection, you would need some type of intelligent "HOST" device (a computer or some type of stand-alone unit like the iConnectMIDI2) to translate the 5-pin-DIN RS-232C communications protocol to the USB-MIDI communications protocol. This can not be done with simple "wiring" adapters. The translation requires active intelligent (processing) components. iConnectMIDI2: http://www.iconnectivity.com/iConnectMIDI2plus

Johnathon; GBell The User's Guide for the IDES-3 software can be downloaded from: http://music.casio.com/e/data_ex3/before.html#software You have to scroll down the page a bit. It is under the heading "English Manual for Application" All of these IDES related items: the IDES-2/3/4 software and User's Guides, and all the aftermarket tones, rhythms, samples, songs, etc. can be accessed collectively through the old Casio Europe site at: http://music.casio.com/e/ The menu selection breakdown on that page is as follows: for WK-3300/WK-3800/WK-8000/PX-410R/PX-575R: IDES-4 and related aftermarket items for CTK-900/WK-3200/WK-3700: IDES-3 and related aftermarket items for CTK-691/WK-3000/WK-3500: IDES-2 and related aftermarket items for CTK-671: IDES software specific to CTK-671 and related aftermarket items If it had not been for the fine folks at Casio-Europe, the IDES system would never have been utilized to anywhere near the extent that it has been. It is really too bad that Casio International has not seen fit to do the same for the newer models, or at least allow the new Casio-Europe group to follow suit for the newer gear. When the CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX models first came on the scene, it looked like Casio Australia was headed in that direction, but it appears that that group is now defunct. At least Jarred Beany and Paul Noble, who were really ramping up on real-time and video support, seemed to have disappeared from the scene. It was apparent from the outset that the high end gear was going to be enough of a workload for Mike Martin and his folks, so I just thought that the guys from downunder would be a natural shoe-in for the CTK/WK support - and they seemed to have the personalities for it. Well, at least I can keep hoping, anyway ! I keep dreading that, one of these days, Casio International will force Casio-Europe to pull the plug on the above site. Once they do that, I have no idea where we will be able to refer "new" owners of the "older" boards. I am not sure Casio International would understand that the purchaser of one of the older boards today is most likely the potential owner of one of the newer models tomorrow. Regards, Ted

Josh You are correct. Unless you were to edit a GM voiced MIDI or karaoke file on a computer-based sequencer to embed the MSB/LSB codes for selecting the CTK/WK native (panel) voices, there would probably not be much improvement, although I do have to say that the GM voices of my CTK-7000 and WK-7500 are distinctly better than those of my old Roland SC-88 and a vast improvement over the Microsoft Wave Table Synth, but not quite as good as the GM voice banks in my Yamaha arrangers. Revoicing song files can very quickly turn out to be way more work than was originally estimated. Once you start remixing instruments, you have to also adjust volumes and panning and reverb sends and chorus sends, and other DSP settings, and on, and on, and on. Quite often, I end up asking myself if it was really worth it. As long as I select an appropriate quality main/lead voice(s), can the audience really hear the difference in the backing tracks, or even care, for that matter? This very topic gets completely beaten to death on a routine basis on a couple of other forums I belong to, and we really never do come up with a definitive answer. Regards, Ted

The MIDI file player on the CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX Models is exactly that - a "player" It is not a "sequencer". It does not allow recording or editing. While the MIDI file is playing, you can use the keyboard's "MIXER" feature to turn parts on/off, change a part's instrument, volume, pan, reverb, chorus, etc, but any changes made will last only for the current session. When a different MIDI file is selected, or the keyboard is powered off, any changes will be lost. Permanent editing of the above parameters would require the MIDI file to be loaded into an external or PC-based sequencer (DAW) and edited there. You may select the voices (tones) of your choice and play along with a MIDI file, but the respective "channels" are pre-selected by the keyboard and can not be changed. The "main" keyboard tone will play on Channel A01, the "Layer" tone will play on Channel A02, and the "Split" tone will play on Channel A03. The other "A" Channels (A04 through A16) are reserved for Auto-accompaniment and will not play during MIDI file playback. The MIDI file plays back on Channels B01 through B16, so there is no chance of interference between MIDI file playback channels and locally played channels. Here again, anything "played along" with a MIDI file can not be recorded to it. That would require the MIDI file to be played back on an external or PC-based sequencer (DAW) as keyboard play is recorded into it. Keybed MIDI data is output to the USB port during MIDI file playback, but not the MIDI file player's. That is, MIDI file playback can not be sent to an external or PC-based sequencer (DAW). The MIDI file would need to actually be played on the external device in order to record or overdub local keyboard play into it.

I have now been through all 159 preset rhythms on the WK-3800, and as predicted by BradMz and Jokeyman123, I did not find any that had different instruments or patterns when played with a minor chord, as opposed to a major chord. So, it appears that Casio did improve their rhythm design sophistication from the WK-3XXX and earlier models to the current CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX model lines. In order to save time, I only checked Intro1, the assumption being that if Intro1 did not exhibit a major/minor "dual" nature, neither would Intro2 or either of the Endings. I suppose the next is to go through all of the preset rhythms on the CTK/WK-7XXX to determine which are of a major/minor "dual" nature.

The CTK-2400 has no onboard means of recording. You will have to connect it to your computer for that. Pages EN-32 through EN-34 of the CTK-2400 manual explain the connections for making MIDI recordings from the keyboard to the computer, or for playing MIDI files from the computer to the keyboard, using the keyboard as a "sound module". To make MIDI recordings you will need MIDI recording software (Anvil Studio, Audacity, etc) on your computer. Page EN-35 explains the connections for making audio recordings of the CTK-2400 on the computer. This will require audio recording (DAW) software (Anvil Studio, Audacity, etc) on the computer. More reliable and better quality audio recordings can be made by using a USB-Audio interface between the CTK-2400's phones output and one of the USB ports on your computer, using the proper adapters and cables: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UCA202 Anvil Studio: http://anvilstudio.com/ Audacity: http://www.audacityteam.org/

The CTK-2400 has no onboard means of recording. You will have to connect it to your computer for that. Pages EN-32 through EN-34 of the CTK-2400 manual explain the connections for making MIDI recordings from the keyboard to the computer, or for playing MIDI files from the computer to the keyboard, using the keyboard as a "sound module". To make MIDI recordings you will need MIDI recording software (Anvil Studio, Audacity, etc) on your computer. Page EN-35 explains the connections for making audio recordings of the CTK-2400 on the computer. This will require audio recording (DAW) software (Anvil Studio, Audacity, etc) on the computer. More reliable and better quality audio recordings can be made by using a USB-Audio interface between the CTK-2400's phones output and one of the USB ports on your computer, using the proper adapters and cables: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UCA202 Anvil Studio: http://anvilstudio.com/ Audacity: http://www.audacityteam.org/

I'll try to make some time to check this out on the WK-3800 this weekend, Brad, and will post it here. Not that it would make much difference to you or Stefaan or I, but I think there are still a fair number of WK-3XXX owner/users out there that might be interested - now that the subject has come up. Like you, I am betting "probably not". I had the WK-3800 about 6 months before I got the PSR-3000. If the 3800 had that capability, you would think that I would have noticed it somewhere in all that time. I discovered it on the PSR-3000 the first day I had it.

Stefaan As Brad has already confirmed, you are absolutely correct. All three of those "Big Band" Rhythms (Slow, Mid, Fast) use different melodic patterns for both Intros and Endings when played with a minor chord versus and major chord. I thoroughly apologize for not picking up on this from your initial post. This has been a known "feature" of the Yamaha MOTL PSR and TOTL Tyros Arrangers for many years, and from time to time becomes a topic of some very heated discussions amongst the style (rhythm) tweaker/creators on the Yamaha forums, as none of them have figured out yet how to do it. This is not something that the rhythm engine does automatically. The different melodic patterns have to be programmed separately (as well as the switch trigger instructions) into the rhythm by the programmer. To date, Yamaha has not been forthcoming on how this is done. I have used this feature on my PSR-3000 for over 10 years now. Quite often I will purposely start one of those types of styles on a minor chord that will resolve properly to a song's first major chord, because I like the minor chord Intro better than the major chord Intro. I was very surprised to find this when I first got into the Casio CTK/WK-6XXX/7XXX models, as it indicates a higher degree of rhythm programming sophistication than I ever realized that Casio was into. Based on Brad's reply above, I am going to have to haul my old WK-3800 out of mothballs and rack it up in the studio here to see if it has any rhythms that are programmed that way. I never tried it, as I just assumed that it did not have that type of rhythm programming. At any rate, we can now both sleep well tonight knowing the our minds are not dropping off the edge - not in this respect, at least ! Regards, Ted

H-D I am going to start by addressing your very last comment/question in your most recent reply. Perhaps it is time to analyze your reason(s) for purchasing the WK-7600 to begin with. If you purchased it because you were looking for a full-fledged Arranger Workstation, with advanced one-man-band capabilities, at a reasonable price, then you are kind of stuck with your current split/rotary predicament, when it comes to Casio, at least. The WK-7XXX has been Casio's top-of-the-line Arranger Workstation for some years now.. The are arranger-type PX stage piano models that cost more, but most of that extra cost is in the 88 key weighted hammer action keybed and the marque piano samples, but other auto-accompaniment (one-man-band) features, such as number of tones and rhythms and methods of editing and controlling them are much reduced, or missing entirely, as compared to the CTK-WK TOTL models. At this point, I would recommend posting your specific set up questions over on the MZ-X500 sub-forum to see if it will suit your needs. I can not say that it is even a "step up" from the WK-7XXX. It is a design unto itself, and continues the MZ-2000 line of some years ago. Where the CTK/WK models can be (and are) used professionally, they are actually targeted at the home/hobbyist market, while the MZ's are aimed more at the professional market, so comparing the two model lines is somewhat difficult. Now ! If you, like so many others, purchased the WK-7600 because you were looking for a reasonably priced electronic keyboard, or even electronic "piano", and could not be less interested in the auto-accompaniment (one-man-band) features, then I would say you definitely need to look into models made more for those specific purposes. In that case, I would recommend posting your set up questions in the PX-5S sub-forum to see if it will suit your needs. It is a full, professional, stage piano with absolutely no investment in Arranger Workstation (one-man-band) features. Like any other problem, yours can be solved if you throw enough money and hardware at it, but the more complex the arrangement, the greater the physical and mental anguish in setting up, controlling, tearing down, and hauling, and certainly the greater the chance of failure at a most critical moment, so I agree with your idea to try to get it down to a single device, if at all possible. One very strong piece of advice - do not base your decision entirely on sales brochures and YouTube hype. Talk to current owners, as much as possible, about pros and cons and capabilities and shortcomings. Mistakes at this point can be very expensive and equally disappointing. Best of luck ! Regards, Ted

shiihs Very strange, indeed ! I was comparing the recordings to the actual sound output of my WK-7500, and I was comparing only the brass parts in the intros. To my knowledge, the rhythms in the WK-7500 are identical to those in the WK-7600, although I did notice an enormous difference in bass/treble balance in comparing either recording to the output of my WK-7500. I wrote this off to the effects of the EQ in the WK-7600, which the WK-7500 does not have. I was able to replicate, to my ears, at least, the intro of the SoundCloud piece by muting one or two of the brass parts of the Slow BigBand rhythm, while the picosong piece matches the Mid Big Band of my WK-7500 almost exactly, with the exception of the EQ. The problem with something changing on your keyboard is that the pre-sets, tones and rhythms, are stored in a Read Only Memory (ROM) chip that is permanently burned-in at the factory. It is inconceivable that static electricity or a power surge could have changed its programming and still left something that is perfectly workable. That type of damage usually leaves the unit mostly, if not, totally useless. I agree, that with your current experience level with the WK-7600, it is also inconceivable that you would have modified a rhythm without remembering it. Believe me, if you had ever done it, you would remember it for the rest of your life. It is not an easy process. My point here is that it is not something you could have done by mistake or accident, without knowing it, by hitting an incorrect button. You would have had to work your way through the editing menus and then save your work. When you recorded the SoundCloud piece, by any chance did you use the Mixer? It will allow you to turn rhythm parts on and off or reduce their volumes to zero. I ask this as a matter of interest, because I don't think that would explain it. That SoundCloud piece intro sounds entirely different from the Mid BigBand. I really don't think you could do that with either the EQ or the Mixer, but what "happened" is pretty much beside the point at this stage. The dilemma is how to recreate your original work, and for that, I am afraid I have no answer. I have been through all of the rhythms on my WK-7500 that could possibly fit, but have found nothing that sounds anything like your SoundCloud piece. It's almost like it was done on a different keyboard. About all I have to offer at this point is my best wishes, not just in solving this problem, but with your ongoing endeavors with your WK-7600. Regards, Ted

shiihs The first score above, the one posted on SoundCloud is not "B:002 Mid Big Band". It is a modified version of B:001 Slow BigBand with the brass thinned by muting one or more of the voices. The second score, the one posted on http://picosong.com/zzH7, IS "B:002 Mid Big Band".

Silvano If it really is a bug, it must just be with the newer models. I have never had a freeze loading rhythms directly from the SD Card into my CTK-7000 or WK-75000, nor even my CTK-6000 when I still had it.

The CTK-2400 has 3 harmonica tones. Tones 065 and 066 are native/panel (high quality) tones while Tone 289 is Tone #22 in the GM (limited quality) Tone Bank. You can download the CTK-2400 Manual and Tone List (Appendix) from: http://support.casio.com/en/manual/manualfile.php?cid=008001060

Nigel You have a Private Message !

At the lower left corner of the display, there are three labels: LESSON REPEAT REVERB There will be an indicator on the display, next to each of these labels, that lights steady, to indicate when that feature is active. However, when the battery is low, all three of those indicators will flash simultaneously, regardless of the status of the "labeled" item. If you are looking for a discrete LED labeled "LOW BATTERY", there is none, and if you have a fresh set of batteries installed are looking for a low battery indication, you will not find it, as it only shows up when the battery is low.

I know what you mean about the sliders, Brett. I think, in your case, when you move the slider, it "selects" that channel, and that is all it allows you to hear - the "selected" channel. As though moving the slider "solos" that channel. I know, it doesn't make sense. I have learned not to use the sliders on my CTK/WK-7XXX units for anything other than the deawbar organ drawbars. If I try to use them in the mixer to control the volumes of the various parts, all of a sudden, without me touching anything else, they switch to selecting different instruments instead of varying the volumes, and I end up with a big mess and have to start all over. I know this is something I am probably doing wrong, but it has happened so many times, that I don't even try to use them for that anymore. I just do my editing with the display menus and the buttons. At least that way, I get the job done the first time, every time. I have never cared for supposed "shorcuts" that set up nightmarish pitfalls for me. As a matter of fact, when I try to explain to another user how to edit something, I make no mention of the sliders, at all. I just leave that for them to figure out on their own. I don't want sliders changing instruments, unexpectedly, while I am trying to just show someone how to polish off their mix. I had similar problems with the sliders on my XW-P1, while I had it.

Yeah, Lap ! ADware is the price we pay for most FREEware. Sorry 'bout that. I sometimes forget that not everyone already knows where the "good stuff" is like those of us that have been at this for more years than we care to admit. After you hang around these forums for a while, you will start picking up on what is worth/safe downloading and installing and what isn't. Try these. They should be safe: MIDI-OX: MIDI diagnostics utility: http://www.midiox.com/ For quick/easy tests of your MIDI connectivity. VanBasco's MIDI/KARAOKE file player: http://www.vanbasco.com/ For quick/easy MIDI/Karaoke file auditioning/downloading/playback. Audacity Multi-track Audio record/play: http://www.audacityteam.org/ Anvil Studio Multi-track Audio/MIDI record/play (DAW): http://www.anvilstudio.com/ Presonus Studio One (Version 3) Multi-track Audio/MIDI record/play (DAW): https://www.shop.presonus.com/products/studio-one-prods/Studio-One-3-Prime Reaper Multi-track Audio/MIDI record/play (DAW): http://www.reaper.fm/download.php (60 Day Trial) FL Studio Multi-track Audio/MIDI record/play (DAW): http://www.image-line.com/downloads/flstudiodownload.html (Trial) Once you have the capability to play MIDI and Karaoke files from your PC to your keyboard, you are probably going to be in the market for free MIDI/Karaoke files that are safe from viruses, malware, and adware. Give these a try. Most of them are of fairly decent quality and use the GM voicing spec, so they should sound OK on your CTK-2400: http://midimenagerie2.tripod.com/ http://www.oocities.org/tannas7/midi1.html http://www.mididb.com/ http://midkar.com/ That VanBasco's player I list above is one of the best. If you set it as your default player, all you have to do is click on a MIDI file on a webpage, and the player will automatically download it, in the background, to a temporary file on your hard drive as it plays. If you decide you want it, there is a button on the player's panel for saving it to a permanent location, otherwise the player erases the temp file when it is finished. It's really great for auditioning files. If you want to edit or re-voice files, you will need one of the DAW programs I list above. If you decide to purchase one, all of those I list are good, but Reaper or the latest version of Cakewalk's Music Creator (not listed above) offer about the best best bang for your buck. I'll keep this in mind for the next few weeks, and if I think of anything else your CTK-2400 can't live without, I'll add it below. Your CTK-2400 won't load User Tones or User Rhythms, so we'll save that for your next upgrade. Have fun ! Enjoy that CTK-2400 Regards, Ted