KryoShift

Hmm, over the past few days I've realized just how much I used, and thus miss, after-touch when playing keys =/ I wonder if Casio has plans for an upgraded model in store for Winter NAMM >.>

I was aware of music studio-specific distros, Rosegarden, etc but had never heard of KX studio, that's pretty awesome

It might work under WINE. No guarantees, of course. There's always Virtual Box if you have a copy of Windows or OS X laying around...

I wonder if this is a bug in how the MIDI is transmitted and can be fixed in a firmware update? I can try it over actual MIDI through my interface, though I imagine it will react the same as USB since it's just settings that determine which port MIDI data is sent to.

Honestly I picked the P1 due to the huge sounds possible with the Hex Layer mode. It sounds like this is for a gift, do you know what genres the receiver is interested in? That may help.

I tried taking some pics tonight, but the lights in my apartment are horrible. So on Saturday when it's sunny I will try again. Honestly I think if one can find one, get the GDK3 But I do like a gold with green in it. It doesn't look gaudy/bling so much as dead sexy in an unusual way. Some sports cars today come in this color. It's basically this, here's an old muscle car:

I don't see anything but YouTube with FireFox or Chrome on OS X atm. I even signed in to SoundCloud >.> Just a loooooong very short/narrow rectangle.

I don't have speed issues with the site myself. A download section might be nice for, say, user patches, etc. I'm fond of the one on Elektron User's. In the meantime until something forum-specific happens, I would be willing to host files on my DropBox Or the OP can get a free 2GB DropBox account and host the files themselves. I'm good with either choice, really. Maybe Mike could make a thread a sticky with links to all sorts of things so it's all in one place?

Naw, we got this sorted. I just spent some quality time with my P1 programming a massive 'tarnce' sound using the Hex Layer. Not my genre of choice, but I think if a synth can handle that duty it can handle most anything I'd want it to do. But yeah, this thing is staying right here. I'm starting to like it's character and even 'quirks' >.> But I'm odd like that. As for filter stepping James mentioned (that's been reported on a lot, pretty sure it's due to some internal use of MIDI vs it's own controller methods. My EWI 4000S is super smooth with it's internal synth, but steps somewhat when used as a MIDI controller), I don't play the keys live, so if I want a filter sweep, there's always the DAW or my Octatrack makes a nice effects box.

I still wonder why every preset doesn't have the attack and release adjusted so these clicks aren't an issue >.> But now I'm just beating a dead horse and being super-critical, I think. I suppose for the same price I could have bought a used JP-8000, or a Gaia/Ultranova if I wanted something 'newer' (and smaller, I do like compact...), but at the end of the day, if I had to I could use the XW-P1 for an entire track if I wanted. Step sequence the drums and record that, play the bass and lead parts, pads if I had them using the Hex Layer, etc. Luckily I just need it to be a polysynth and look pretty. Dear Casio, if all the P1GDs sell will you make an 'XW-Z1' that uses PD synthesis instead of PCM? >.>

**edit** yeah i botched this all up Will just have to wait until I get home. Anyone know about the "K3" part? Mine came in a regular XW-P1 box with a "GD" sticker the color of the synth next to the 'P1' either way I think it looks a lot better than the regular P1, but I've been staring at a K5000S (giant silver beast) for two years >.> the Orange and silver isn't bad, though.

So. Do we want to keep this thread (and I edit the first post to reflect what is) or delete it? I'm fine with either, since the 'problem' is solved. I guess I'm just a n00b to PCM synths? Anything I've ever used in the past has generated it's own waveforms, whether they were analog or digital synthesizers, so is this just 'user error' on my part? for what it's worth, I'm glad to be keeping it i'm going to abuse those aliasing tones in the first song I use it on, I think Little snippets make for great glitchy percussion

I decided to go home for lunch and chase this thing down. It's in the audio outputs, too. Well, last night I had to set the attack so far ahead I was losing any percussiveness at all, but looking at the actual numbers, the knob doesn't seem to respond for a brief period (I would assume to take into account different settings for different patches?) and so I was going too much on the A stage. programming a patch to start at 001 (on A and R) works well enough so I guess I'll just shut up and keep the P1 anyway Btw it exhibits this behavior on Hex Layer, too. I tried to upload a sound file so others could hear it, but it's too large and I have to head back to work so I can't upload it anywhere.

I found an interesting thread on devices notorious for cheap DACs on the headphone output: notebook computers. I know my old MacBook did some hissy nastiness on the headphone out, and if I used a system EQ I could hear clicks like this. So I'm going to run this into my Apogee ONE via the L audio output and see what's going on. If it turns out it's just the headphone out I'll be very happy because that I can put up with on a $500 instrument And it is starting to make more sense as what could be going on if nobody has been noticing this because they're only hearing audio from the audio outputs. **edit** also, a Novation Ultranova user on their forum has/had a very similar problem on the headphone out of their synth. It's starting to look more and more like it's just the DAC used for the headphone, if that turns out to be the case tonight I'll let you know and you can delete this thread (hopefully) or I'll just go and take out all the bad stuff about terrible samples >.>

That's what I don't get, no one has complained about these pops before, and I know from reading around you're not the "corporate lying a**wad type" you really do seem to care about this instrument. As for what I was looking for, a mid-priced synth with decent sounds and a keybed that doesn't make me want to cry every time I touch it. The MIDI out over USB with a MIDI in/out was icing on the cake. The step sequencer was a nice bonus, too. I absolutely did not expect this to be the next Nord Lead or Access Virus lol. I'm sure I came across as a "synth snob looking for a rolls royce on a kia budget." If it wasn't for these clicks/pops I would have zero problems with the XW-P1. But like you said, no one else seems to be having this issue, and I haven't heard it on any demo videos. That's part of why I'm so perplexed and wondered if I just had a dud. I did notice this morning that with the filter wide open it's not apparent even on a triangle or sine wave, but with slowly closing the filter it reappears. This is even with resonance low, so I don't think it's any weird self-oscillation issue. Maybe something is just wrong with mine. I'd hate to return it and drive across town for the other P1GD in the area and have the same thing happen. And hey, I did say I was rather fond of the aliasing at the upper range, it made for some cool glitchy sounding stuff that's right up my alley if I had room for more than one full-size keyboard I might even hang onto it for that and the sequencer >.> Tonight I will capture a recording to show you what I'm talking about instead of just returning the P1 and washing my hands of it. I do have a question, though. It occurred to me that I've been using the headphone out (with Audio Technica ATH-M50s that are so not the problem lol), is it possible it's just a really cheap DAC for the headphones causing the problem and the actual audio outs won't have this issue? Anyone using headphones with their XW?

I didn't create this profile to complain about this thing, hell I added my usual avatar I use everywhere and a signature, some of you may have even seen me around before. I really wanted to like this, as a fan of the CZ line I was excited that Casio was back in the game and I was curious what these XWs were about. And now I'm just left disappointed. Yes, I know this is a cheap synth (on the LCD in the tempo/measure section, under the bezel there is more LCD that is covered up that actually reads 'tempo' and 'measure' etc lol), and I really wanted to like it, and it has a lot of good things about it. It's gorgeous, imo, I love that 'lime gold' color. I can accept 4 knobs (and hey, 9 sliders and a slew of buttons) on a $500 synth. They keybed is adequate enough, it's pretty good amongst it's peers, actually. I'm not expecting the keys of my K5000S here, but they aren't bad at all and very playable. I've used much, much worse. The sequencer is a great touch and made me immediately wonder if Casio has a groovebox/drum machine in the works for NAMM 2013 >.> I actually like the organ stuff, I thought it would sit unused, but I got some decent epiano stuff going and was pleased. Mono/lead mode plays well, though I mostly bought it for Hex Layer. I love the tray, my MFB-522 is right at home. But there are some things I cannot forgive. The person that edited the PCM samples needs to be given a strong lesson on sampling, and the person that okay'd them needs to have their ears checked. Tbh, I've never used a PCM synth before, so if all the clicks and pops are normal, then I apologize for trashing it and the people responsible. I can totally understand why the Attack of the envelope is mapped to K3 on every patch if this is business as usual o.O On plenty of them, you need to be able to adjust the attack so that damned pop is gone. I'm not talking musical percussives, or what you'd use for the transient of a kick drum (though it sounds like that in a way) I'm talking ugly, nasty, who-gives-an-f-about-zero-crossings-anyway crack!s that reverb just loves to make sound even worse. I can get rid of them using the Attack control, but there comes a point when you lose the percussiveness of a sound and get a slight 'whump' at the beginning that, while useful, is not always what one wants. To be absolutely fair I haven't dug into making my own patches, yet, but the horrid clicking has given me pause to even try. I really, really want to like the EW-P1 and I want Casio to succeed in the synth hardware market, but like I said, there are some things I just can't forgive. Poorly edited samples in an instrument that relies on samples is one of them. Now, this is lesser for me, but probably a Big Deal to a lot of people. The last 1.5-2.5 octaves on most PCM samples are unplayable. Is this what aliasing in these things sounds like? It's miserable crap and sounds like utter hell and I can understand why people hate it, and synths that make this sound. Personally, I rather like it and would use it for glitches/character percussives. Or a tuning radio sound if you use the pitch bend wheel when it gets gnarly. "How'd you make that radio tuning sound??" "Oh, that's just me pitch bending, ie playing the aliasing " Make lemonade, right? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but these pops are in a lot of presets and the aliasing is in all of them. I can work around the aliasing, that's the nature of too few samples and trying to pitch them way too much, but clicks because someone couldn't be bothered to find a zero crossing on the sample are another. Is it safe to assume there is no recourse for having the PCM library updated? (Btw my P1 is on firmware 1.10 already). At the least, is it too much to put in a request for a sample editor so those of us that notice, or even care, can go in and adjust the sample start time ourselves? Having looked in the manual, I suppose I might be able to fuss with the AT and AL envelope points to sort of trick it to knock the clicks out but still give a percussive attack. Blah. It's not in every waveform but it's in an awful lot and sounds awful. How can I be the first person to notice this? Is my unit frazzled or something? It was the only GD they had, but there's another store in the area that has one... Like I said, I primarily got the P1 for Hex Layer, which only uses PCM samples, so if those are trash then this thing has to go back, sorry Casio. **edit** It's in the 'synth oscillators' too. When it said "generates sound like" I was hoping in my heart of hearts that the P1 used DSP to created OSC1 and OSC2, and then block 3 and 4 were PCM. Seems that was just wishful thinking. Piano sounds great, organ section is nice enough, but the poorly sampled PCM synth stuff kills this one for me. Maybe tomorrow before I pack it up and head off to Guitar Center I will upload an audio file, but how no one else seems to notice this is beyond me. I didn't notice it on any online videos, or on the G1 I played at Guitar Center but I only got a feel for the keybed, I didn't go through it as extensively as I am with my P1.