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Hi, You can do a MIDI thru type thing. If your pedal MIDI input is USB, you can send that to the 5 pin midi out: [Sys Setting] > MIDI > (page 3) > MIDI Out Select [USB]

If you check out Stage setting 0-9 You Two the effect is similar. In the case of the guitar, the arpeggio used is 013 Seq Line 1. I'm sure you can modify a user phrase or arpeggio to closer meet the sound you want.

Perhaps that's why theere is the data editor for the PX-5s

I'll just chime in... What if you did just buy another PX-5S if the old one is really failing? If you got 8 years out of it, what do the next 8 years look like? Not such a bad investment, you already know what you are getting. Some things to keep in mind, MIDI MPE might come into its own. Newer keyboards and new technology might incorporate this into their devices (it's a way of managing expression, volume, effects, for individual notes rather than limited to all notes on a specific channel). Unless you really want to go into a different direction from the PX-5s and a reinstall of the firmware and a factory reset doesn't set things right, why not buy another PX-5s? Anything can happen in the next 8 years but at least you know exactly where you are starting. And as far as backup of anything electronic... electronics will always fail and possibly to a point where the information is unrecoverable. Just have that expectation. Figure out ways to mechanically record your creative stuff - like pen and paper, it's surprising how long my high school note books outlasted my commodore 64.

I thought this sounded like a poem too! Inspiring stuff

I know this is old, but in case someone was looking at ( i just got a notification) the answer is yes. Once you select a zone as described above, press the Zone + and - keys at the same time to turn that zone off or on

TomK, Like Brad said, the song sequencer can in a sense, save a basic midi setup. You set up each of the channels the way you want (patches etc.) in a song. Save the song and that midi setup is ready to go. Recall the song and hit play and the midi setup is in place.

Like Jokeyman123 wrote above, if you have a midi montior of some kind (like midiox ifor Windows) you can actually see the codes that the PX is sending hen you move levers and turn dials. it will show you the midi code when you change reverb. On your midi controller, you would have to implement that code to send it the PX

Can your multipad output a MIDI control or Sysex message? If so, you can do the program change from there. For example, Sending Bank 0 = 112, Bank 32 = 36 and program change = 92 will select ethnic set 1 . Depending on the equiment and whether or not the program changes are zero based.

Does the PX-5s have an internal battery? Maybe it needs replacing?

Hi Amaxe, Since you just bought your Casio, it might not hurt to reinstall the firmware and initialize it to factory settings so you know you are starting with unaltered stage settings and tones. If you feel comfortable doing this, check out the video below from Mike Martin. I've included an updated link to the firmware: https://support.casio.com/en/support/download.php?cid=008&pid=20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NARK6qdzm1U

It sounds like you are talking about a MIDI Merge which isn't possible directly from the PX-5s. MIDI Thru in a traditional sense only passes on incoming information to the THRU port. The idea of the THRU port was to chain a series of different synths together and set each to it's own channel to play that portion of the original signal. MIDI out was designed to send information from the specific keyboard being played; not the incoming signal. My guess is that because there is a USB port and a MIDI out port, a dedicated MIDI THRU wasn't considered necessary. Either way, you would need a method to merge the MIDI out and the USB out if one of those was set to transmit the incoming MIDI data.

Hi Dale8567, Check out this old thread. A bit wordy, but I provide a walk through of the sequencer if you have the patience to read through it.

To add to what Brad had posted, once you go into the System menu, you can control various midi settings live. Actually adjusting the controls here can send out midi information as you do it. Though the specific slider isn't assignable per se, you could, for example, use the mixer settings to send out various CCs to an external source on channels 1-16. Getting a little creative, you could program a phrase or a song that records a midi volume or velocity at zero. The advantage of a song is that you could specify the midi channel or group of midi channels. Call up the song and play it and the channels get "muted". Have another song to do the opposite. Along the same lines, you could program midi files that do the same and store them on your thumb drive. Call up the specific file that changes the volume of the channel or channels you want. Play it and it can send the info externally.

Hi JPK, Do you want to use the internal sound generator of the PX-5s at all? Do you want to switch stage settings on the PX-5s by pressing buttons on the Roland or do you want to press buttons on the PX-5s to change the Roland sounds?

It would be nice if there were a few more editing tools onboard when trying to record a phrase on the PX. For me, suddenly when I'm trying to record something I've played a thousand times before is when I mess up. 😊

Interesting. So you start with the nuance or movement of the sound before applying a timbre. Is that about right? What do you audition the sound with if you aren't starting with a sample or oscillator?

I think so, but looking at the PX-5s midi guide, it looks like it is not a universal control but PX-5s specific. If you are using windows and have a program like Midi-Ox, you can go into settings on the PX and turn on and off the local control. When you do that, the sysex message will be transmitted to midi-ox. If you have a midi editor, you can enter the sysex code and save it as a midi file. If you can load the midi file into another device or a computer, you can then play the midi file and have it transmit that code to the PX-5s. If you can program your midi device to trigger external sysex messages and can program them into the device, then there would be no need to load and play a midi file with the info.

Cool

Steve D. Did you dlownload the editor user guide? DATAEDITORPX5-E1A.pdf

There is definitely an envelope and filter control but there really isn't a controllable oscillator per say as you can never actually alter the wave form on Hex or Melody tones. You could argue that the ring modulator actually alters the resulting waveform, plus you can do a type of pulse modulation if you offset opposite same type wave shapes in two hex layers.

SeptemberMusic, I'll build a little bit off of what AlenK posted. Sysex messages are often instrument specific. That means there can be specific messages for the PX-5s and specific messages for the Midi solutions pedal. There are also universal real time sysex messages that all machines should understand. The PX-5S will transfer these when you do things like adust the midi settings. For example, if I go into the sys settings > Sound Generator > Master Volume on the PX and adjust the master volume to 126, the following sysex message is transmitted on the spot: F0 7F 7F 04 01 00 7E F7 You are limited to only a few universal sysex messages. Volume, Course Tune, Fine Tune, Reverb, Chorus, and modulation. Though you won't be able to generate a custom sysex message specifically for the Midi solutions pedal directly from the PX-5s, you might be able to preprogram the messages in a midifile and save it as a "song" so-to speak . You can save this song on a usb device and then paly that song on the px-5s. I've done this to change settings directly on the px-5s (like having a customized mix of the midi channels) and have transmitted things like channel changes and volume changes to other devices. In theory, it is possible to do with sysex messages. And since phrases are recordings of midi data, in theory you could write the sysex messages, save them in a midi file and then convert the midi file to a phrase using the data editor. I'd be curious if the messages would get transmitted out or if they would just try to be run internally; but again, in theory, it could work.

I've had my PX-5s for 5 years now and I haven't noticed any deterioration in the action. It's definitely not flimsy.

Did switching the Stage Setting work to activate the arpeggiator? From everything I've read n the midi manual and from experimenting, there does not seem to be a way to activate the arpeggiator externally. The function seems specifically related to onboard key presses.

What is you had two identical stage settings and you switch between the two to control the syncing? Assumingly as soon as you switch to one or the other, the start position of the phrase and arpeggio's go back to zero. I haven't tested this so I have no idea if it would work. ...I might not understand the original question.