Recorded song Mixer Settings

[Cassioplaya]

(I didn't want to start yet another topic but cannot find this question on the forum.)

 

I am on page EN-111 of the CT-x5000 manual and am certain that I have followed the stages correctly, even although the lit button must now be unlit is most confusing.

 

I have recorded a 4-track song. Track four is overpowering and I am trying to mix it quieter. I get to step 5 "use the 2 and 5 number keys ... " but the volume isn't changing.

 

Please advise.

 

Thanks.

 

Derek

[Brad Saucier]

56 minutes ago, Cassioplaya said:

. I get to step 5 "use the 2 and 5 number keys ... " but the volume isn't changing.

 

Buttons 2 and 5 are being used as cursor keys up and down in step 5.  Using those keys in step 5 will cycle through all of the menu options shown in the chart under step 5.  Navigate with those button until the screen reads volume, then proceed to step 6.  

[Cassioplaya]

1 hour ago, Brad Saucier said:

 

Buttons 2 and 5 are being used as cursor keys up and down in step 5.  Using those keys in step 5 will cycle through all of the menu options shown in the chart under step 5.  Navigate with those button until the screen reads volume, then proceed to step 6.  

 

Thanks, Brad.

 

Step 6:

+ / - or the dial to change the setting.

 

I can do that. I have the volume setting and the correct track. I can make the number change from the default setting of 127 but the bar height does not move and the audible volume does not change.

 

Thanks.

 

Derek

[Brad Saucier]

Bar height will not change while adjusting the mixer in song edit mode, but the volume changes should be heard and saved.  I would double check that you're in the correct mixer section for the track you're adjusting.

[Cassioplaya]

13 hours ago, Brad Saucier said:

Bar height will not change while adjusting the mixer in song edit mode, but the volume changes should be heard and saved.  I would double check that you're in the correct mixer section for the track you're adjusting.

 

Thanks, Brad. However, why would the machine be set up in that way - hear it but not see it?

 

Anyway, what I described was how mine was working. But I persevered. I opened the manual and repeated the now familiar pattern of gestures. Guess what? It worked; just not in the same way as I would have expected. I repeated the volume adjustment before opening your advice and the machine did the opposite of what you state! Aaargh! 

Yes, believe it or not, the bar height changes but I hear no real-time difference. But because the bar height changed, surely a difference has been made. Yes! Only now I have to stop the song that I am working on and re-start it. Time-consuming because the part worked on doesn't enter at the start and I have to guess at the desired volume output level - But It's Working!

(My get-by fix for this hic-cup was going to be to re-record track 4 whilst the play volume was loud; that way I would play the part quieter.)

 

Is it possible to record a new track, let's say track 5, but without hearing just track 3 (System, 1, 2, 4 still playing)? I have tried the part select button but the whole ensemble joins in. It's as if they have been paid for the gig and feel obliged to fulfil the contract.

 

Thanks, Brad. You are keeping me sane and the CT-x5000 safe. ☺

 

best wishes

 

Derek

 

 

[Brad Saucier]

If you're in song mode and simply open the mixer, without entering song edit mode by pressing and holding the edit button, the mixer will work differently than it does in song edit mode.  Make sure you're pressing and holding the edit button before going to the mixer.  As far as muting parts, you should be able to use the mixer for that as well.

 

 

[Cassioplaya]

1 hour ago, Brad Saucier said:

If you're in song mode and simply open the mixer, without entering song edit mode by pressing and holding the edit button, the mixer will work differently than it does in song edit mode.  Make sure you're pressing and holding the edit button before going to the mixer.  As far as muting parts, you should be able to use the mixer for that as well.

 

 

 

Yes, the mixer is very different. I found out that I had forgotten the song edit button when the expected view did not materialise.

I definitely pressed song edit mode. EN-99. See. I'm beginning to remember page numbers !

 

Here's another anomaly:

I have decided that, as I don't seem to be able to replace just one bar by playing it again with punch-in, I will recorded just the bars with mistakes - in a new track. This saves having to re-record the track from the broken bar to the end of the piece. I can then just clear the bar with the mistakes and leave the new track to fill the gap. Today I am unable to clear the bar. The last time, I only had one track so used delete.

 

best wishes

 

Derek

[Cassioplaya]

15 hours ago, Cassioplaya said:

 

Yes, the mixer is very different. I found out that I had forgotten the song edit button when the expected view did not materialise.

I definitely pressed song edit mode. EN-99. See. I'm beginning to remember page numbers !

 

Here's another anomaly:

I have decided that, as I don't seem to be able to replace just one bar by playing it again with punch-in, I will recorded just the bars with mistakes - in a new track. This saves having to re-record the track from the broken bar to the end of the piece. I can then just clear the bar with the mistakes and leave the new track to fill the gap. Today I am unable to clear the bar. The last time, I only had one track so used delete.

 

best wishes

 

Derek

 

This poor machine. All I do is criticise it.

 

I asked it to clear a bar. If my playing had been exactly matched to the metronome the notes played would have been within the bar which the machine removed. There was overlap so some notes were still there, appearing as if the bar was still there. Not so.

Solution: clear bar 44 with the duff notes; re-record bars 43-45 on the new track to give corrected notes and overlap.

Ta-Da!

 

☺

[yul]

Good stuff! Playing by hand is never perfect. It's actually the same when using a computer. 

 

I have not used the track editing to that extent yet but can already see this having to take notice next time.

 

I can tell you that this Casio is well made because if you start to play the notes just before the recording starts, it will align it pefectly with the beginning of the bar.