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  1. Thanks for the quick reply as always Mike! Seems like a simple mode to create with all the technology out there but I know nothing about keyboard hardware and software. I guess it's just not a function that is in high demand but I'm hoping you could understand how it could be very useful for a live setting. I usually wince when a hear a keyboard covering horn parts because, well, it sounds like a keyboard covering horn parts no matter how good the underlying samples are. I was thinking about setting up a couple hex layers one with a major triad and a second with a minor triad both in the first inversion so the trumpet is playing the root. I'd use tones for the two remaining zones to somehow create a matching unison sound. It would still be pretty limiting and it would be weird to learn how to play it. You definitely wouldn't be able to cover " What is Hip" with it but maybe you could fake "Angels of Harlem" pretty well...we play the latter. The other option of course, is to sequence it (phrase or song mode I guess) but then the drummer would need to play to a click track...that's not going to happen in our band.
  2. My band recently kicked back to life. We have a horn section with us most of time but I would like to be able to cover their parts for some of the songs if we don't have them for a gig. The problem I have with layered horn settings, programs, etc on any keyboard I've ever played is that each note has all the horns playing when, in reality of course, each horn is playing just one note....usually a different one. So let's say I want to mimic more precisely a simple trumpet/sax/trombone horn section. I could create, three two octave zones on the keyboard for each but I would need very large hands to actually play the parts...and certainly playing any other piano or organ part would be out of the question. It would be great to have a keyboard that had a "horn mode", where if you played a triad it would, for example, automatically assign the highest note to the trumpet, the middle note to the sax and the lowest note to the trombone. I would set something like this up in one zone, a second zone where the three are set up in unison and a third with piano, organ or whatever as needed. Anyway, this is a long winded preface to see if anyone has a work around idea to accomplish something like this on the PX 5S...thanks.
  3. Sonny, I am presuming you are trying to modify the Vibe tone. The tone editing menu is relatively limited. I would suggest you create a new hex layer using the vibraphone wave which is number 66 or the GM vibraphone wave which is number 76 (I have not listened to them to see how different they sound). This gives you much more detailed envelopes to work with to try to tame the attack transient to your liking. You may find it advantageous to employ two or more layers of the same wave or similar waves within you hex layer tone to get the sound you want. If you get something you like, please post it in the downloads section here! Good luck... JJ
  4. Xagerado, I took a stab at creating an improved accordion sound. You will find it posted in the downloads section. Let me know what you think and if you have any suggested improvements. You can work with the sliders and and knobs to re-eq the sound or soften the attack if it suits your ear better.
  5. jimmyjames

    Accordion

    Version 1.01

    300 downloads

    This Stage Setting attempts to improve upon the standard accordion tones that come with the PX5S. The underlying tone is a two-layer hex layer with the waves being the bandoneon samples. The knob/slider/modulation/pedal settings control the same functions as the ConcertGrand setting except: Knob 1 controls layer detuning so that you can increase the "musette" or "wet" effect of the sound as it is commonly referred to in accordion lingo. (* See further note on this below) The Mod Wheel adds tremolo as opposed to vibrato to better simulate what happens on the accordion when the bellows are manipulated to provide some modulation to a sustained sound...usually through a hand shaking motion. All-in-all it is just not possible to incorporate all of the physical attributes of playing a real accordion into any tone or Stage Setting on the PX5S (or any other electronic keyboard I have played except the Roland V-Accordion of course), Nonetheless, I am hoping some of you can "squeeze" something useful out of this...(ugh...). * For some reason, the Bandoneon waves seems to be sharp a fair amount so you will note if you dissect the tone settings, that I made a fine tuning adjustment. That may be a result of the detuning effect in the base waves themselves. When you detune the layers further with a Knob 1 adjustment, your ears may perceive the sound to be sharpening further. If you plan to use a detuned level more often, I would go in and further adjust the fine tune level...unless of course you like that bit of dissonance.
  6. File Name: Accordion File Submitter: jimmyjames File Submitted: 06 Aug 2013 File Category: PX-5S Stage Settings This Stage Setting attempts to improve upon the standard accordion tones that come with the PX5S. The underlying tone is a two-layer hex layer with the waves being the bandoneon samples. The knob/slider/modulation/pedal settings control the same functions as the ConcertGrand setting except: Knob 1 controls layer detuning so that you can increase the "musette" or "wet" effect of the sound as it is commonly referred to in accordion lingo. (* See further note on this below) The Mod Wheel adds tremolo as opposed to vibrato to better simulate what happens on the accordion when the bellows are manipulated to provide some modulation to a sustained sound...usually through a hand shaking motion. All-in-all it is just not possible to incorporate all of the physical attributes of playing a real accordion into any tone or Stage Setting on the PX5S (or any other electronic keyboard I have played except the Roland V-Accordion of course), Nonetheless, I am hoping some of you can "squeeze" something useful out of this...(ugh...). * For some reason, the Bandoneon waves seems to be sharp a fair amount so you will note if you dissect the tone settings, that I made a fine tuning adjustment. That may be a result of the detuning effect in the base waves themselves. When you detune the layers further with a Knob 1 adjustment, your ears may perceive the sound to be sharpening further. If you plan to use a detuned level more often, I would go in and further adjust the fine tune level...unless of course you like that bit of dissonance. Click here to download this file
  7. Well, no offense intended to anyone at Casio, but less face it...there was not a lot of time spent on the accordion sample. Certainly Casio does not appear to have the passion about accordions that Mr Kakehashi from Roland has....that's understandable. I've played the V Accordion and it is amazing. I listened to my accordion as well as the sample on my Nord which is a very good one. The Casio sample has an unnaturally strong attack which is both too harsh at the immediate outset and then rolls into a quarter second "wow"-like sound before easing into the sustained sound. It makes a run of notes sound like you are jerking the bellows on every note....you don't do that when you play the accordion. I tried for a few minutes to adjust the amp and filter settings. I succeeded in softening the initial attack by putting a little time into the attack on the amp envelope but I was completely stymied in my efforts to reduce the "wow" thing using either the amp or filter envelopes. Also this appears to have only been a single sample spread across the board so the entire sound is very unrealistic once you move more than an octave or so away from middle C. There is no way to fix this with EQ. Mike, if you have any suggestions how to get rid of that "wow" thing (except perhaps a little for firmly struck notes which is probably a velocity adjustment of some sort), I think we could give Xagerado 24 or so OK notes to work with.
  8. Great setting Mike! I felt like a cat looking at an aquarium full of fish listening to this...so many great sounds floating around. I held complex chords and just let them dance in my ears.
  9. Thanks Mike! The portamento was my favorite add-on feature in 1.10. Not a programming expert, but I'm guessing that was not a simple thing to do. It opened up the possibility of nailing a myriad of classic and recent synth sounds though.
  10. Thanks Mike! Made the adjustment to the Hammer Response value per your suggestion.
  11. Joe, thanks for removing the "Broken" designation from the Nine Layer Organ file. I presume the "policy" going forward will be to remove a "Broken" designation if a problem can not be confirmed. Please note I posted an updated version of this Stage Setting today (1.05) adding B3-style percussion (just the 3rd) controlled by Knob 3, as well as some additional Master EQ adjustments to improve the sound.
  12. 118 downloads

    OK...I'm showing my age. I love this riff. Best used with the Nine Layer Organ stage setting.
  13. So you know, I worked with my NE4 to create the Nine Layer Stage setting. It is not possible to get all of the tonal complexities on the PX-5S that Nord has in its B3 sound so I would not be so bold to suggest that this setting rivals the sound of the Nord. It generally has the same underlying tonal characteristics, does contain all nine harmonics and has them volume balanced against each other relatively close to the Nord. The largest deficiency IMO is in the Leslie sim. While I compliment Casio for creating a two level sim (speakers speeding an slowing at different rates) and I think it sounds pretty good on the slow setting, the fast setting is choppy and transistory compared to the Nord sim (btw, I matched the rotations speeds from the new 122 sim on the Nord as best I could). The vibrato/chorus settings on the Nord are also fabulous and again, while it is very nice that Casio took the time to add these to the PX-5S, they are nowhere near as accurate as Nord's version. I think Mike Martin has been very honest from the beginning that the PX-5S is many things, but it is not a clone wheel. Nonetheless, I hope my setting shows you can get a little closer to it than maybe even Mike thought...close enough that some of us amateur/semi-pro players can just bring the Casio for a club gig if there is some light to moderate duty B3-like sound needed. Also, I fully expect someone will find a way to better my setting in the not-too-distant future...I look forward to it!
  14. Joe, thanks for the response. Did the "round trip" as you suggested and it is functioning properly. Perhaps we "regulars" should not have the power to label files as broken...only moderators. Don't want to put more work on you (and BTW I am grateful for what you do already) but I think labeling something as "broken" when it is more likely the problem is with the downloader and not the setting itself could discourage sharing. I think easy sharing of user settings is one of the most powerful things the PX-5S has to offer. PS: mgrieves...thanks for the note of support...glad you like the patch! PSS Joe, btw, forgot to mention I couldn't see who reported the file broken. I am guessing only moderators are allowed to see this. I would have probably sent a message myself if I had known who it was.
  15. So I am a bit perplexed as to how this works. Someone reported this file as broken with the explanation "wrong data". What does this mean? Do the monitors of this site have any feedback on this? Should this just be a site for Casio to post files? Looking for some guidance.
  16. I see someone reported the file as "broken". Would appreciate if whoever reported this would post the specific reasoning so I can attempt to repair it. Thanks...
  17. Version 1.06

    677 downloads

    This is a version of a nine tone layer organ similar to a B3 organ. I worked with a distinctly colored clone wheel to compare the PX-5S tones against. It will never be exact, but I think it is in the same zip code (perhaps the same ballpark if you use a Neo Vent) and could get you through a club gig if you don't have a clone wheel. It contains two hex layers in Zones 1 and 2 and uses all twelve available layers. Only nine layers will sound on any one note presuming the sliders are all in the open position. Twelve layers are needed to simulate the duplicative use of the tone wheels in the B3 in the extreme ranges of the keyboard (see excerpt from Sound on Sound magazine Hugh Robjohns article below regarding this - link to full article http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul03/articles/hammondb3.asp). Zone 3 contains a truncated version of an organ tone to bring in the percussion. The key range of this Stage Setting is limited from C2 to C7 so keys above and below this level will be silent. Slider/Knob settings: Slider 1 controls the equivalent of the 16' and 8' drawbars. Slider 2 controls the equivalent of the 4' and 2' drawbars. Slider 3 controls the equivalent of the 5 1/3' and 2 2/3' drawbars. Slider 4 controls the equivalent of the 1 3/5' drawbar. Slider 5 controls the equivalent of the 1 1/3' drawbar. Slider 6 controls the equivalent of the 1' drawbar. Knob 1 controls the distortion level. Knob 2 controls the vibrato/chorus setting. Knob 3 controls 3rd percussion. Knob 4 controls reverb. Mod wheel and Pedal 1 toggle rotary speed. "The New B3 has 96 digital tonewheel generators whereas the original B3 (and its siblings) had 91 active tonewheels (although there were actually 96 physical wheels in the generator, the unused ones being there to maintain the mechanical balance). However, if you do the sums, you'll find that there are actually 109 different tones required to produce nine harmonics on a 61-note keyboard. The original Hammonds overcame this problem by cheating — partial octaves were repeated at the top end of the keyboard, the repeating starting on different notes and octaves depending on the drawbar. On a stock B3 the 2-foot drawbar repeats only the top 'C' from the octave below, while the 1-foot drawbar repeats an octave and a half starting from the 'G', and the intermediate drawbars start repeating somewhere in between. This arrangement is usually referred to as 'fold-down' and it is an essential element of the subtle but characteristic tonal quality of the B3 and its siblings."
  18. 114 downloads

    This Stage Setting can be used for the Phoenix song "1901"...one of my favorite songs of the past several years. It is a modified version of the 1.10 factory Stage Setting 7-7 "PolySynth" and retains all of the knob and slider settings from this Stage Setting. The setting contains three zones. The lowest zone is the sawtooth bass sound. The middle zone is the bell-like sound heard behind the rhythm guitar at the beginning of the song and during the choruses. The upper zone is the portamento synth sound heard at the end of the verses and sustained through the chorus (I love this sound...good thing 1.10 added poly portamento!). The sustain pedal only work for the upper zone so you can hold the portamento synth sound through the chorus while you play the sawtooth bass and bell sound below. My band doesn't play this song (we're not playing much of anything right now.. ). I would love to hear it if someone uses this to gig. Enjoy!
  19. Mike, hope you had a nice vacation. Thought I would check in with you to see if you were able to get any additional information about how to transmit CC values over 100 which I need to control a few things on my NE4. Thanks...
  20. Yes Ralf, my experience indicates you are correct. I have saved a couple of my custom tones as user tones but for the most part I have just left them in Stage Settings. I'm not sure it works the same way for phrases though i.e that they can exist as part of a Stage Setting but not as a saved phrase. That is why I saved the "Ain't Nobody" phrase as a phrase to be downloaded together with the JK Sweet L2 Stage Setting. BTW, thank you for articulating and logging the various issues you are finding with the PX-5S. Not to take anything away from this amazingly capable keyboard, I too have had my frustrations with the way certain things function (or don't). For example, I already posted the problem with transmitting any CC values over 100 to control another keyboard or module that have things tied to these values, like the Nord Electro 4. While I know Casio is making no commitment to another firmware upgrade, I really hope that they do at least one, if not to enhance the sounds available, at least to fix bugs. I'll tell you, I grew very angry with Nord when they gave up support for the NE2, not to make it better, but even for simple things like updating drivers for updated versions of Windows. There needs to be some basic level of product support that lasts for several years. Even at the great price for the PX-5S, these keyboards are not cheap. I can't imagine it is a tremendous investment of time or money for these companies to at least keep basic functions current and I think it makes for more loyal customers.
  21. Ralf, thank you for your feedback on the complications involved in creating, importing, renaming, downloading and using "user" Stage Settings. My creation of the "Ain't Nobody" phrase and an associated Stage Setting, JK Sweet L2, came from a Facebook group discussion. I then had some private correspondence with IM29 about redoing and posting his further alterations to the JK Sweet L2 Stage Setting. I found it to be very interesting how he organized it for his purposes, Notwithstanding, I can see that user posted Stage Settings will probably be of a different quality and nature than Stage Settings that Mike Martin has created. Perhaps here in the downloads section, there should be a couple different areas set up...one's from Mike and other "professionals", and then ones from users like the rest of us. You can sort by author but this distinction doesn't mean much to a newcomer who may not know who are the professionals and who are not. Nonetheless, I really wish other users would start posting their custom Stage Settings. It is the best way to vet this machine and to share ideas. Don't be shy!!! We are all trying to get our arms around this very deep and unique machine. If you do post though, please try as best you can to give a detailed description of how the setting functions. Just a further note on unsaved Hex Layers and Tones within Stage Settings from your immediately previous comment. You will note that for many of the factory presets, the underlying Hex Layers and Tones remain in an edited unsaved, state with names that have little bearing on what they actually sound like. I think this will just be something that we will all need to understand is part of the architecture of this machine. IMO there's no need to dot every "i" and cross every "t" when you can just set it and forget it within a Stage Setting.
  22. 142 downloads

    This is a slightly modified version of stage setting 4-3 that uses an arpeggio tied to the phrase "Ain't Nobody" by Chaka Kahn. The original can be heard here: You will need to download the "Ain't Nobody" phrase and place it in U-102. I also slightly modified the filter envelope to take some top end out of the sound so it sounds more like the sound in the original recording. You can adjust the filter to your taste by using Knob 1 as with the orginal setting.
  23. 150 downloads

    This phrase is the notes in the arpeggio at the very beginning of the song "Ain't Nobody" by Chaka Kahn. It is a nine note phrase that I tried to space as evenly as possible in one 4/4 measure. This can be used in conjuction with the arpeggiator per the instructions on Page E-24 of the Tutorial. I suggest setting the tempo at about 200 in case that part of the data does not come together with this file. I will post a version of the JK Sweet stage setting (4-3) that refers to this phrase in the arpeggio. You may need to download this phrase into U-102 for the stage setting to work properly. Added information: with this function, you only need to use one note to play the entire phrase. In this case, you need to play E flat 2 to play the pharse in the proper key and octave. That information should already be saved as part of the Stage Setting that I posted.
  24. 218 downloads

    This is the lead line from the Aha song "Take on Me" to be used in conjunction with the "Take On Me" Stage Setting.
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