gruuvinrob

No ya don't. Never spend a bunch of money on an instrument before you listen to it and decide you like it. If you don't like it; don't buy it. In this case, it's more appropriate to criticize the purchaser than to criticize the instrument. This was an entertaining thread; now beating a dead horse.

Thank you both for the replies. I had been working on a stage setting with strings, pad, organ, and sub in one hex layer that sounds very much like what I wanted, and then another hex layer that uses the melwsawlead... Spent many days tweaking the pitch, filter, and amlitude envelopes to try to get that MiniMoog sound.... Ive got something close, but not as "breathy" as the moog. This is certainly a learning experience. What have I learned? That this board is INCREDIBLE! I am really curious if Casio has something in development to improve on this one. You really have to dig in to tweaking all the parameters to really appreciate what it can do. It's for musicians who really like to geek out. I cannot imagine doing it without the data editor. Although it's impressive that it can all be done through the small lcd! (I've had this board for many years, and didn't get into it until recently).

I use a larger pedal,like the one you show from Amazon, plugged into pedal 1 input. It is nice for using often, for sustain, since it stays still. However, I also use the other cheap pedal in the pedal 2 input, since you may find many uses for it in stage settings. For instance, I vhave a stage setting where the bass end of the keyboard is split for a zone with organ, pad, strings, and sub, with left foot on the small pedal 2 to hold its sustain, while the top two thirds of the keys are piano with its sustain with the big pedal on input 1.

Is there such a thing as any actual new piano samples that can be added to this keyboard? I am new to this board, and I am really thrilled with all the discovery of sounds. There are so many user-created sounds in the downloads section. I have just downloaded a few dozen Piano stage settings with promising names, such as Steinway D, or 9 ft. Grand, etc. I mostly understand the whole concept of what is a tone vs a stage setting: where a tone (or hex layer, etc) is a fundamental sound building block, and a stage setting is a callable setup, which is a collection of up to four tones, and all parameters and settings, etc.) I am beginning to believe that every user-created acoustic piano sound is not really based on a NEW tone, or newly sampled tone, but is simply sourced from a tone that was already present in the PX-5S, with its parameters just tweaked, like EQ, attack, release, etc. Because, after downloading dozens of acoustic pianos from all different users, including MM, I hear the same pianos I already have in this board, most with just EQ tweaks and other very minor changes. In addition, I am astounded that every Stage Setting contains all tones/parameters/settings, etc., in only 12kB of data.... every one! That tells me that these tones are not samples AT ALL, but that this is a keyboard that synthesizes a piano sound, which would explain why every piano sound I download basically sounds the same, because they are ALL synthesized by the same engine (the AiR processor). Am I on the right track here? What is the source of these piano sounds? samples? the synthesizer? Or is it just not samples but a LOT more complicated than that? Thanks!

I have been hunting for that Pink Floyd synth sound in the intro of Shine On You Crazy Diamond; not the string/pad, but the smoothed out Minimoog brass-like lead sound that precedes the first guitar lead. Does anyone know of a tone or stage setting that has reproduced this fairly well? I hunted through all the factory tones, and found nothing very close.

Thanks Brad! I just finished reading all six pages of this thread,and I see you answered this question on page four; probably five years ago! Appreciate your gracious help! I'm sure there's an interesting reason for this limitation. I'll go hunt down the answer in a manual. ... Nope. Manual doesn't say why, but it is clear that drums only on Z2 and hex only on Z1 and Z2.

Is it normal that hex layers can not be added to zones 3 or 4? On any stage setting, if I want a hex layer, it must be added to zone 1 or 2, because if I select a hex layer for zone 3 or 4, it gives me "invalid tone" error. Why is this?