Yamaha Styles on CT X 5000

[Matzel]

What notes in the accompaniment chord tracks are required for correct major and minor triggering on the Casio? Converted Yamaha styles do not work properly, mainly with major chords.

[Akshansh - Alex]

8 hours ago, Matzel said:

What notes in the accompaniment chord tracks are required for correct major and minor triggering on the Casio? Converted Yamaha styles do not work properly, mainly with major chords.

Yamaha styles are contains different chords data from the Casio. It needs to change full chords to Major or Minor while editing.

Unfortunately, this type of editing is not available on CT-X keyboard. But, fortunately, this function is available on the computer using softwares.

 

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Edited August 7, 2022 by Akshansh Khare - Alex

[Mclandy]

The answer to that question is both simple and complicated.  For typical chord and arpeggio types of sounds used in Variations and Fills, it depends which Chord Conversion Table value you choose - Chord Basic, Chord Minor, or Chord 7th.  Since all accompaniments must be recorded in the key of C, for Chord Basic that is generally C,E,and G notes.  For Chord Minor, C, Eb, and G notes.  And for Chord 7th, C,E,G, and Bb notes.  Chord 7th is actually very versatile because it includes the 7th note (Bb), which makes for a more natural sound when playing 7th or M7th chords, but shifts that Bb up to a C root note when playing non-7th chords (the keyboard transposes it automatically depending on what chord is being played).  For Intros and Endings, you typically would use a CCT value of Intro No Change or Intro n-minor because they can include melodic or chord transitions that you want to have shifted to the appropriate key, but otherwise not modified.  Casio rhythm files do provide the ability to define alternate major and minor tracks for parts (mostly useful on Intros and Endings), but unfortunately the keyboard itself does not allow you to define and edit those, although it plays them just fine.

 

Converting from Style files can be difficult, because Style files actually allow the accompaniment to be recorded in ANY key (not just C, although the vast majority of them are in C), and in any one of 30+ chord types.  This actually turns out to be overkill, as it really doesn't give you any more capability to define a good accompaniment, and unfortunately all this flexibility results in some really wild style files, not because people NEED to create them that way, but just because they CAN.  So, depending on the Style file you are trying to convert, you may need to key-shift the notes to be in the key of C, and you may need to change some of the notes to force them from whatever chord type is specified in the Style file, to a basic Major, Minor, or 7th chord in the Casio.  For example, the default track type in Style files is recorded in Cmaj7, so that fits pretty well with a CCT value of Chord 7th if you just change all B notes to Bb.  Again, I don't see all this "flexibility" in Yamaha as an advantage, but rather a case of over-engineering that actually results in unnecessary complexity.

Edited August 7, 2022 by Mclandy