JFP Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Question about the PX5 audio input; is there a noise gate active on the audio input , or am I going crazy. When I play a software instrument trough the input it gets cut-off when dropping below a certain volume level in the sustain phase. Checked it in three different cabling configurations and there IS really a signal going into the audio input (either Jack INPUTS or Mini-jack). So the cut-off happens in the Casio. A simple YES would help, so I can stop pulling my hair out on this subject. Wanted to use a software piano routed through the audio in of the Casio for easy setup, but if there is indeed a fixed noise gate , that can't be bypassed, I have to think of another mixing setup. Or is it a feature that can be turned of in a future firmware update. Hope it's not hardwired... Any other PX5 users tried this ; or is it just my unit ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoralf Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 The signal passes the compressor. For testing you can bypass it with the new firmware. look inside the partners of the master compressor and turn threshold to a higher level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFP Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Bump. Seems more users are finally running into this same issue on other forums. Any chance on a fix, if its fixable at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Firmware updates aren't guaranteed, but I have a list of requests in and this in on the list. I don't know at this point how easy this one would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFP Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Thanks for the quick response. We'll see. PX5's still in back order everywhere here, so no rush... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebonivor Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Is there any sign of progress in fixing this issue yet? I want to run a guitar via Amplitube on my iPad into the the external inputs, but the signal cuts out when signal decays to to about 10 percent and then cuts back in.I've tried going throught the line in jacks and the audio jack and get the same problem. I've also tried connecting the guitar directly and through a DI box with the same result.I tried the same thing with a Korg Kross and it works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianomax Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 New owner, same problem. Any news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck_waddle Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 This is really a shame. I'm sure there was some reason, but it's kinda crappy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User 29303 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 i wonder i have my Korg IX300 playing all kind of sounds on the Input and also Drums ,,,sometimes on full Level of the Korg and i never had n issue with the noise gate maybe mine is broken = Yeah = ´? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianomax Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Mau Van try to play a piano sound from the external keyboard, or any sound with a long decay, just a single chord keeping sustain (or the keys) pressed and listen to the sound fading out (decaying): when it will reach a certain level, pretty low, you will hear the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianomax Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Up, any news?At least it would be good to know if this issue can be fixed by a Firmware update or if it is Hardware related (which would be really bad, but I am ready also to do a Hw modification, if it can save me from using a mixer in many cases...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebonivor Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I suspect that since this wasn't addressed in firmware updates 1.12 and 1.13, both of which were released after this matter was raised, it is most likely a hardware issue. Unfortunately, no response or explanation has been provided by Casio. Quite disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianomax Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Yes quite disappointing, considering this topic is more than 1 year old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaug Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I found this problem after trying to use the inputs with a Nord Electro 2 rack (for the EPs and organ). The gate makes the inputs useless for me and means I have to use a mixer. What a shame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Some here, I have a korg microarranger as input and produces A LOT of noise ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianomax Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Up.. just to remind Casio that we expect at least a feedback to know whether this issue can be solved by a FW update or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piattica Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Up.. just to remind Casio that we expect at least a feedback to know whether this issue can be solved by a FW update or not...+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khenson Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I came to this forum searching for a solution to the noise gate issue - looks like it's still unsolved. It's unfortunate that the gate makes this great hardware feature of this great keyboard completely unusable. At this point I'd even gladly pay for a software update that gives you the ability to turn it off completely. Mike (or anyone in the know), had there been any progress on this front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cercle Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Hello Forum. Is this issue solved? I have the same problem. Noise in audio in ports. ;( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cercle Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Hello? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Excessive noise is not normal. If that is happening, something needs repair. As far as the noise gate, I highly doubt the PX-5S will ever see another firmware update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cercle Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Thanks for your reply Brad. It's a real shame that Casio makes these mistakes. I just bought a Korg Krome, with the idea of plugging it into the Audio IN of the PX-5S. As a result, a horribly dirty sound comes out of the Casio. Now, have I to spend extra money to buy a mixer? Or did I take the Casio to repair? My Casio still has two years warranty. Will Casio accept this problem as a warranty case? I'm very frustrated with this PX-5S fault. Very disspointed after paying 899 euro for an useless Audio IN port! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Sounds like you are overdriving the audio input. Many PX-5S users run other keyboards into the audio inputs with no issue. Check your levels. Put the PX-5S main volume knob at 12 o'clock. Press system settings>sound gen>external audio volume. Make sure it is 127. Then turn down the Krome's main volume until there is no distortion. If you still get distortion, try playing audio from a smartphone or mp3 player thru that jack and try another cable. If it still happens no matter what you try, your PX-5S is malfunctioning and needs repair. Use the warranty or exchange the keyboard with your retailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cercle Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Thank you Brad. However, the cut off issue does the whole thing useless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 The noise gate does what it's intended to do. It shuts the audio off on very low level sounds that drop below the self noise level of the inputs. The inputs on the PX-5S are not reference quality. They have low level self noise. The noise gate mitigates that. These inputs work well for live use in a mix with a band or casual use for music playback. It is still very useable for anything that does not need a very soft decay like reverb decays. If the noise gate was defeatable, self noise would be the next issue, which is not correctable with firmware at all. Those inputs also run thru the PX-5S master EQ. So for critical audio needs, it's always best to use a mixer no matter what. Even if the PX-5S inputs were perfect, a mixer is still preferable when a studio quality setup is necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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