Hugh O Kelly Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 a little jam between the US and UKbluesgrass .mp3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Good jamming with you! Next week, same place, same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted December 27, 2013 Author Share Posted December 27, 2013 I'm up for it Brad and thanks anyone do reggae ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted December 28, 2013 Author Share Posted December 28, 2013 Its the donkey hereI've written another versionMuch better and I don't even have fingersneddy version.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspeter Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I must ask, how are you doing the collaboration? An existing service? Live or recorded? Audio or MIDI? Are there significant time lags?Funny you should mention reggae. I was just in St. Lucia and a little 3-4 piece band was playing quite a few popular tunes with a reggae flavor. I told myself I'd have to do some cross-genre covers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I created the stage setting (which is in the downloads section) that Hugh played along to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yes I'm hoping that there are more programmers like Brad out there that can make up other stage setting like swing,blues texan blues/Delbert McClinton,western swing etc. Brad ,if you have the time and the inclination I'm sure there are a lot more members including me that would like to know how to make up the program you made and perhaps there will be more genders made for all of us to enjoy Here is a little tune I wrote in logic and the PX-5s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspeter Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Ah. I was getting intercontinental jam session envy! It made me think, though...It might be kinda cool to have a low-bandwith MIDI-powered jam session. I don't know if such things exist, but I can visualize two PX-5S users with identical setups transferring MIDI data instead of audio for a super-low bandwidth connection. I would imagine that might nearly eliminate time lag. And if Casio made a softsynth version of the PX-5S available, that could really rock things! I don't know if a MIDI-sharing service already exists. I'd imagine it does. I dig the tunes, by the way! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Sorry Hugh, I won't be making a bunch of styles. In the future, my accomp needs will be serviced by my MZ-2000. If you would like to know how I did it, here's how. Accomp keyboards have rhythms that play out on 8 channels outside of the 4 playable zones. On the 5s we can only put phrases on the 4 zones so immediately we are in trouble for making a rhythm. To overcome some of this limitation, I have taken advantage of the hex layer tone. The hex tone can be designed in a way that 6 separate tones can be mapped out across the 132 note (11 octave) midi keyboard map. This allows up to 6 different parts of a rhythm to be placed in one zone. Of course to do that, all of your parts need to fit into one phrase. You'll need midi editing software to do this. Now....to make all of these parts fit into one phrase is a bit of a head scratching give-and-take. You must arrange your parts in a way that they will have sufficient space for the transposing in order to prevent one part from playing over into the next tone zone. I've never put more than 4 parts in a phrase/hexlayer because of this. Next comes drums. Drums can only be on zone 1. If we want drums we have to sacrifice zone 1 for them which makes the hexlayer I just described have to go to zone 2 since z3 and 4 cannot do hex tones. Now this leaves us no choice of hex tones for actual keyboard playing. We have to use melody tones on Z3 and Z4 to play along with our rhythm. So now.....we have "up to" a 7 part (realistically, 5 parts max) accomp pattern squeezed into Z1 and Z2. The next big problem. The PX5s doesn't do chord detection. The PX5 will only transpose a phrase. As a result, the sound of the phrase becomes unnatural outside of a range and changing the chord of a phrase is not possible. You'll have to change the phrase to change the chord. Any questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Brad,Don't worry.I wasn't asking you specifically."Yes I'm hoping that there are more programmers like Brad out there that can make up other stage setting like swing,blues texan blues/Delbert McClinton,western swing etc." The hex layer tones at the moment are above my comprehension Just wondering if you had the bluegrass set up,if you could make a cut down version and leave out the third of the scaleso one could play minors and well as major chords.But as it, is it is just GREAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thank you Jaspeter for liking my song.I like big maracas too. I think it would be too much fuss to have that kind of a jam,but a drum loop or a phrase to write over I'm up for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Leave out the third? Then it would sound like rock and roll. Lemme see. Go to the download. It's there. Scruggs2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thanks Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 I can't get the data editor to workI changed the leadSwitched off the computer and 5x twiceand the computer cannot see the 5xAny thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Check your usb cable. Also check any open programs that may be tying up the midi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Brad ,I checked your usb cable turned anything off not to do with the connectionThe computer cannot see the 5xmight the usb in the 5s not be working ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Was it working once before today? Has anything changed about your setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 yesI've no trouble at all in the pastWhenI plugged in the usbit worked in the pastThere seems to be a bit of play on the socket on the px 5s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Oh my. I hope the jack isn't broke. It seems you have ruled out all other possibilities. Sorry Hugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Yes it does look like it.Rather than going all the way down to LondonI just wondered if a computer repair man could put in a new USB jack ? female(i knew they had something to do with it !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 You might be covered under warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaspeter Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Are you sure it's the computer that can't see the PX-5S, or just the editor? You may want to try to cycle the connection in the editor (preferences screen, then the little button with the two blue arrows at the top right). If that fails, try communicating with the keyboard from another program. If that fails, make sure the USB connection didn't get turned off in the PX-5S itself (I don't remember which menu that's under, probably system settings). Having a computer technician fix the jack sounds like a recipe for disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Brad,I've tried out your Scruggs 2It works a treatbecause you can change to minor tooTry it with MistyIt worksALL THE BESTHugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Display Name Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Are you sure it's the computer that can't see the PX-5S, or just the editor? You may want to try to cycle the connection in the editor (preferences screen, then the little button with the two blue arrows at the top right). If that fails, try communicating with the keyboard from another program. If that fails, make sure the USB connection didn't get turned off in the PX-5S itself (I don't remember which menu that's under, probably system settings). Having a computer technician fix the jack sounds like a recipe for disaster. Yes Hugh.. try all these troubleshooting steps.. Also, do you have another computer you can try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh O Kelly Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 JaspeterGood advise I just don't like long drives down to London or two weeks without the px 5s It just comes up 'error' 'disconnected'also turned usb off and on in MIDI Any idea without the data editor for the mac to see the px 5s ? Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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