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Looking for more Upright Acoustic Pianos

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Hey everyone, 

 

So I just bought my Px5s and I like it, but Im having a hard time finding some believable upright pianos. I found "Old Upright" in the downloads, but that and "Lo-Fi Upright" just seem like slightly eq'd grand pianos. 

 

Any possibilities for some more upright variations?

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I know a little about those downloads. 😉  Old upright and Lofi upright are made from split pitch shifted piano samples.  That alters the timbre of the original sample.  The samples I used are the only piano samples in the PX-5S, the same used for all of the grand piano sounds in the keyboard.  The PX-5S cannot load new sample data, so you'll have a hard time finding any more believable upright piano tone for it than these.   

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Try layering GrPno Mellow and Mono Piano 1,both have less of a brightness on them.

Tweaking them by adding a little more dynamic little or less dsp delay on the bottom,

make the signal mix all wet and go there forth to get a suitable wet dry mix getting that 

sound. Remember to give it a little or none of delay, chorus balancing the amount been added.

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It's the one area many manufacturers lack. They all want to say they sampled the biggest and best grand piano, which is great. But sometimes a true vertical piano is what the music calls for. I'm glad some have taken it upon themselves to try to give us that sound in the PX-5S.

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Also, keep in mind there are many different upright pianos that may all sound different. Uprights vary in size, sound and condition just like grand pianos.  What I created using split shift sounds very very much like the piano I grew up playing, a Brambach large upright piano in poor condition (minus the poor tuning it had). The upright you have in mind may be totally different than mine.  

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Hi,

Although I cannot directly help you in finding an ideal upright piano, I was in a similar situation to you when I was trying to get my perfect E.Piano. A couple of Forum Members responded to a post I made, and after spending an evening tweaking what they had uploaded to these Forums I ended up with my all time favourite E.Piano sound. I made a point of giving them the credit as without their uploads (onto the Forum) I would have never ended up with my perfect E.Piano sound.

I have a Korg PA4X (£3,000) and previously a Yamaha Tyros 5 (£3,500). Neither have an E.Piano sound that comes close to the one on my PX5-S (in my honest opinion).

I fully intend to purchase the PX5-S replacement when it arrives (hopefully this month at NAMM), but if I cannot get the same E.Piano sound from it then my PX5-S won't be going anywhere !!

Best of luck, hopefully someone will point you in the right direction on the downloads section.

Chris

p.s. have a look at Dave Weiser's piano sounds, maybe one of those might fit the bill (for a small amount).

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What specific tonal characteristics are looking to duplicate? Possibly less sustain, softer hammer sound, more muted tone altogether? Or are trying to get a more clanky, harsh ringing sound? I have played many uprights from 2 Baldwins, an old Steinway upright (I mean really old-still in my friend's house unless it fell through the floor weighs a ton) as well as a variety of classroom uprights and my brother-in-laws immaculate upright compact Yamaha. every one of these sounds very different-but most had a much more compressed duller sound than say a Yamaha/Steinway/Bechstein grand. if that's all you need, i agree with some of these posts-possibly using a less bright sound with very little reverb and a duller attack might be what you are after. And a little detuning might help (most uprights I played were never very well tuned though so that may be unnecessary for you). if you are looking for more of a "tack" piano sound-hmmmm, not sure how this can be achieved on the PX except through possibly layering a bell/ celeste or similar sound for the attack but with a very short sustain, and slightly detuned from the main piano sound. Just a thought.

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