zamood Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 I’ve been having fun with my collection of gizmos to extend the WK-7600’s capabilities: HOTONE’s Ampero Control with DOREMidi’s UMH-21 to enable footpedal control of Leslie sim speed, CME WIDI Master to use board as controller for iPad music apps. I have currently been having a blast loading a ton of VSTs onto an extra laptop I had lying around and trying out MIDI hosts, favorite one is Cantabile. It’s nice to be able to connect headphone out of computer to Audio In (Stereo) on the WK-7600. Sound quality good enough for a nice and portable “live rig”. I have come to accept that the WK-7500/7600 organ sound is passable for a non-discriminating audience, otherwise is meh/thin. Curious if anybody else is playing around using the WK-7600 to control a more realistic software clonewheel, trying to take advantage of the drawbars to be active in the VST? So far I have gotten it to work with IK Multimedia’s B3-x (PC trial version only to date [my laptop is unfortunately too underpowered for it], I’m disappointed that I can’t also try out the iPad version) as a potential paid option, and for a free option I actually went back to the old 32-bit VST “Organized Trio” (free version of VB3-II), which works great, but I did need to use a MIDI CC controller remapping tool to get the upper drawbars working correctly. Thank you for reading my ramblings, I hope others have found this somewhat useful, and curious also of course if others have had similar adventures? 2 Quote
zamood Posted October 14, 2023 Author Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Related to this, still frustrated that I haven’t been able to completely selectively silence a “Drawbar Organ” patch on the WK-7600. Sure, if I set the patch to 0 for all drawbar settings and keep percussion off, it is silent… but then if I’m playing through MIDI to the “Organized Trio” VST as above (audio coming back to WK-7600 via AUDIO IN [STEREO] jack), and then change the drawbars (to drive the VST organ sound), of course the WK-7600’s own organ sound starts to be heard too. Am I right that there isn’t a mixer channel for AUDIO In [STEREO]? If I go to track A01 and turn volume to 0 (or turn off the track , it mutes AUDIO In [STEREO] as well. I have tried using the EXT (I) jack instead, doesn’t fix the problem. And I’ve been very disappointed about the sound quality of anything coming through the EXT (I) jack, very hissy and I cannot improve anything really with the threshold settings. Looks like I need an external mixer, but this sort of defeats the purpose for me of this keyboard having a built-in mixer function. Am I missing something here? Edited October 14, 2023 by zamood Typo Quote
Brad Saucier Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Go to the mixer and turn off part A01. This turns off local control of just that part of the sound engine. A01 is upper 1. If you want to turn off local control of the entire internal sound engine, go to the function menu under MIDI settings, turn off local. Quote
zamood Posted March 19, 2024 Author Posted March 19, 2024 Yes, turning off local control was helpful. So I’d say that I now have a pretty good “rig” for dual manual organ playing, admittedly giving up on the on-board sound of the WK-7600, and using it to drive the B-3x (finally bought the VST with coupon for $65) with full physical drawbar capabilities (just for one manual, which is fine)… and footswitch control of the Leslie speed as described above. My second/upper manual… a cheap Casio LK-170 my nephew is no longer using 🙂. I’m comparing the cost of this setup to buying a Hammond SKXPro (starting at $4000) and laughing… 1 Quote
jeffn1 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) Brad, I am using my CTK-7200 as a controller keyboard (so I do not want it to produce any internal sound) when I am using a particular Registration (Bank 10-2, in case you care). But, during a gig I also sometimes switch to using internal keyboard sounds. So, I could turn off A01, A02, and A3 to turn all (Upper1, Upper2, and Lower) local off when I am in that Registration (Bank 10-2)? That way, I would switch to any other Registration, Preset or User tones when I want to use the internal CTK-7200 sound? Does that sound right? Jeff Edited October 17, 2024 by jeffn1 Quote
Brad Saucier Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 Sounds good. I'm not able to confirm it, so maybe you can and report back. 1 Quote
jeffn1 Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 I am sorry Brad (or someone else) to ask I question I should know. Turning of local of the upper does what I want. But, I have not figured out how to save that so it does that when I restart the synth. (I almost used "initialize", but I researched what that meant. So I am glad I did not do that (it resets to defaults, apparently). So, if I turn turn off A01 (Upper) local off in the Mixer, how do I save that? Quote
zamood Posted October 20, 2024 Author Posted October 20, 2024 Unfortunately Casio did not think to allow the “local off” to be included in registration settings, so I don’t think there’s any way to avoid having to manually set every time you turn on the Instrument. As stated above, I thought the mixer volume down/channel off setting idea is brilliant, but then it also mutes the stereo audio in input, which is how I’m connecting my laptop running Cantabile (awesome VST host) that I’m using to run the B-3x plugin. Quote
Brad Saucier Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 57 minutes ago, jeffn1 said: So, if I turn turn off A01 (Upper) local off in the Mixer, how do I save that? Did you try storing it as a registration? Most mixer settings should be stored in a registration. Quote
jeffn1 Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 2 hours ago, Brad Saucier said: Did you try storing it as a registration? Most mixer settings should be stored in a registration. Thanks for responding, Brad. That did not seem work. (And page E-162 (Parameter List) seems to indicate that is not the way to do it (?).) Quote
Brad Saucier Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 According to the chart, auto resume will store part on/off settings. Turning on auto resume will save the settings for powering off. Unfortunately this is likely the only way. But, maybe there is a chance of creating a silent user tone by editing a preset tone and setting the volume of it to zero. You could use this tone for any parts you want to silence. Quote
jeffn1 Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brad Saucier said: According to the chart, auto resume will store part on/off settings. Turning on auto resume will save the settings for powering off. Unfortunately this is likely the only way. But, maybe there is a chance of creating a silent user tone by editing a preset tone and setting the volume of it to zero. You could use this tone for any parts you want to silence. Okay, yes, I did that with the lower sound so it would not generate any sound. But, I still have one top key in the upper range the I was looking to silence. So, I should be able to do the same thing. Got it. Actually, I kept on adjusting different parameters until I found when that caused it to not generate any sound. So, I can do that too. Thanks for looking into this. Jeff Edited October 20, 2024 by jeffn1 Quote
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