Just Alex Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Ok, today is 2023. Last update is 2017. 6 years passed, can these 6 year old updates have any practical usability in the modern world? Fairlight CMI was also getting some updates, yes, in past, but does these make any sense right now? Same here. Regarding the features, most of them apply to the style editing, like, when editing the style, displaying DSP status currently applied to specific sound (only if it is custom made, even in keyboard itself) as 2nd line under the sound name in mixer editor (And it works badly, sometimes displays question marks and empty square boxes, check the photo). Or in HexLayer sound editing mode, the filter control sliders control not only cutoff/resonance, but also, HPF/LPF whatever filter is applied, it's data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 That's the tone name, not DSP indicator. Where did you get that tone from? Was it made with older firmware or sample manager? Did you try renaming the tone to update the name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Alex Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 No this is not tone name You can see it here. For user created tones, when you go to style editing, if place allows, for some DSP effects it shows either these weird symbols, or shows the DSP name for some effects, say, Chorus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Where did you get that tone from? Was it made with older firmware or sample manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Alex Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 This tone had been created using built-in editor, firmware 1.60. And issue is not with only that tone. Depending on tone name (IF it is short enough) and if DSP is applied, 2nd line of tone name shows different signs per different DSP effect applied. But for some, it writes the name of effect - Chorus, for example. I'm attaching that particular tone here. 80S_PAD.ZLT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Alex Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 I've removed DSP for it out of curiosity, so you can test in a "clean room" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Your file shows random characters regardless of DSP on my MZ. If I rename your file from "80s pad" to "80s Pad" it displays correctly. I am unable to replicate the behavior of your tone names on my MZ with my own tones. Very unusual. Regardless, it is not a DSP indicator. It's gibberish text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Alex Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 Well, seeing is believing - here are two completely different tones, but this time showing the name of DSP applied (not the correct name, but no weird symbols). I even made a video where you can see it all 80s pad is hexlayer tone, aja is normal synth tone and bouncy is a bass synthesizer tone. Even if you apply and later remove DSP, these additional symbols will appear in rhythm editor only. We did a little research and determined why this happens (because AC7 file can separately store DSP settings for a sound in a rhythm) but have no clue, why not casio implemented this feature correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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