Tenor1 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Does Casio have some examples of some custom scene settings? I just got a GP-500 and have been trying to create good settings for each of the pianos. I like the sound used in this promo and would like to copy it. It would be very helpful if Casio would share some settings by giving some sound examples then tell us exactly how to reproduce it. Things individual for each piano type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli26 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 IN the youtube comments for that video, a Casio rep discussed the settings that were used. Here's what he wrote: Hi, and thanks for your insightful query! We recorded the audio for this using the L+R line-outputs of the GP500BP. There was also a very low level of audio recorded through the mic on one of the cameras (a good quality condenser mic),. The vast majority of the ambience and resonance you hear (we assume you've listened through headphones or reasonable quality speakers) is the on-board DSP setting "Hall 1". Hall 1 is the default DSP setting when the piano is powered On. We experimented with various levels but found the default DSP level most effective. Other resonance/ambience aspects of the "Berlin Grand" piano tone (a 9' concert acoustic grand piano by C.Bechstein, their flagship model D262) such as key-on / key-off noise level, pedal-on / pedal-off noise level, sympathetic string resonance, aliquot string resonance, etc., were all left at default levels (after experimentation). Casio and C.Bechstein's engineers used 24 different mics (and mic positions) in recording the samples for each of the 3 main 9' concert acoustic grand piano tones. This helped isolate all the various resonance and mechanical sounds associated with grand pianos, allowing owners to tailor each individually to taste on the Grand Hybrid. That we left all levels at default for this recording is testament to the expertise of our engineers! We hope this answers your query, just let us know if we can assist further. My assumption (Eli here, not the commentor on youtube) is that he "low level of audio recorded on one of the cameras" added more layers of resonance to the recording, as it captured some of the ambience of the hall. SO the only way to really replicate that would be to play the GP500 in a similar room.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I am in awe. Never thought I'd hear something like this in my lifetime. Superb performance, and superb piano. Unbelievable. Articulation, balance, dynamic range, it's all there. I can't believe what I am hearing here. Years ago, I'd listen to Gary Kirkpatrick, one of my teachers at William Paterson-rehearse this for months, and finally recital it in our WP auditorium-a definitive performance by a master on the 11 foot Steinway-and this is certainly equal, at least as much as has been placed on this video. On a digital....cant''t believe what I'm hearing. But then, there is always that massive acoustic sound from these superlative grand pianos, I'm not sure. I don't think the classical world is quite ready to give all that up. But then, said Cristofori as he tried to sell his first pianoforte to the clavichord crowd.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli26 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I have a GP400. I have owned it for just 10 days --- it's absolutely amazing. Each time I play it I am appreciating more and more what a sensitive instrument it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor1 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 1:18 PM, Eli26 said: IN the youtube comments for that video, a Casio rep discussed the settings that were used. Here's what he wrote: Hi, and thanks for your insightful query! We recorded the audio for this using the L+R line-outputs of the GP500BP. There was also a very low level of audio recorded through the mic on one of the cameras (a good quality condenser mic),. The vast majority of the ambience and resonance you hear (we assume you've listened through headphones or reasonable quality speakers) is the on-board DSP setting "Hall 1". Hall 1 is the default DSP setting when the piano is powered On. We experimented with various levels but found the default DSP level most effective. Other resonance/ambience aspects of the "Berlin Grand" piano tone (a 9' concert acoustic grand piano by C.Bechstein, their flagship model D262) such as key-on / key-off noise level, pedal-on / pedal-off noise level, sympathetic string resonance, aliquot string resonance, etc., were all left at default levels (after experimentation). Casio and C.Bechstein's engineers used 24 different mics (and mic positions) in recording the samples for each of the 3 main 9' concert acoustic grand piano tones. This helped isolate all the various resonance and mechanical sounds associated with grand pianos, allowing owners to tailor each individually to taste on the Grand Hybrid. That we left all levels at default for this recording is testament to the expertise of our engineers! We hope this answers your query, just let us know if we can assist further. My assumption (Eli here, not the commentor on youtube) is that he "low level of audio recorded on one of the cameras" added more layers of resonance to the recording, as it captured some of the ambience of the hall. SO the only way to really replicate that would be to play the GP500 in a similar room.... Thank you for sharing those engineering details. It’s quite frustrating to hear the numerous Casio videos on YouTube then attempting to create the same sound in my living room. I would appreciate sampling’s that we can copy and enjoy. Maybe Casio can recommend some settings to maximize each piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor1 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 4:42 PM, Eli26 said: I have a GP400. I have owned it for just 10 days --- it's absolutely amazing. Each time I play it I am appreciating more and more what a sensitive instrument it is. Congrats and enjoy your new piano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Tenor1 said: Thank you for sharing those engineering details. It’s quite frustrating to hear the numerous Casio videos on YouTube then attempting to create the same sound in my living room. I would appreciate sampling’s that we can copy and enjoy. Maybe Casio can recommend some settings to maximize each piano. Are you playing the Berlin Grand preset at default settings with Hall 1 DSP at default level? Are you listening to the YouTube video and your Celviano Grand Hybrid with the same headphones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor1 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 The basic setting I use for the Berlin Grand is the Debussy scene with either the Dutch hall or the NY room. I have created some custom settings that use adjustments to many of the options that affect the overall sound. Things sound much better using headphones compared to the internal speaker system. Can using the internal speakers sound better? I listen to You Tube using a Bluetooth speaker system and a Sennheiser 599 open-back headphone, which I just got yesterday. There is a big difference in tone quality comparing the headphones vs. the internal speakers of the GP-500. The piano seems very quiet using the speakers. My room is pretty large being 50” x 20” and it can take a large volume of sound. Can adjustments be made to boost the volume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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