Jump to content
Video Files on Forum ×

Comparisons-MZ-2000/PX560/XW-P1 organ leslie effect


Recommended Posts

Just boning up on Kris Nicholson's demos of the venerable MZ-2000, which I know several of you here still play. After hearing his organ demo-is it just Youtube, or does this have a killer Leslie simulation-to my ears, its sounds better than the 560 and XW! Is that possible-those of you who can compare. I do not have an MZ-but seriously contemplating based on just the organ demo-I also have a ZPI PX575 Casio which has a very good acoustic piano set-will this sound pretty much the same organ and piano wise, if you can compare?  Thanks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Short answer, yes, I think the MZ-2000 is still the better all around organ.  However, if you add a good external rotary sim to any of the new models, they'll sound as good and better than the old MZ.  

 

Keep in mind, Kris is showing the sampled organs rather than the virtual drawbar organ engine.  MZ-2000 has 65 preset organ tones based on samples.  Most of them have sampled rotary effects of some level baked in, and the programmers were clever enough to combine that with the DSP rotary effects to make things sound better than either one could standing on its own. 

 

The DSP rotary effects in the MZ-2000 versus the newer Casio products is similar, but some noticable differences help it stand out.  Probably the biggest difference, MZ-2000 DSP rotary was a mono effect, where newer products are a stereo effect, and that brings a noticable change in the sound.  The stereo effect is a tradeoff from having dual rotating speaker speeds.  MZ-2000 favors emulating dual speed rotating speakers rather than stereo.  For me, I would not favor stereo at the cost of those dual speaker speeds. 

 

Probably the second most noticable difference is that the MZ-2000 has different rotary DSP effects with different EQ characteristics.  Rotary preset 3 on the MZ is warm, rich sounding.  I think all of the current ones sound most like preset 1 in the MZ.  You would need to use the master EQ on the PX-560 to emulate the different EQ characteristics baked into the different rotary presets on the MZ.   

 

I think you would have fun with the MZ-2000.  It has 2 different sampled grand pianos.  Neither one is stereo, and neither one is multi strike, but the velocity controlled filter makes them expressive despite.  A preset "stereo" piano tone combines both sampled pianos for an interesting sound.  

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks-that explains the leslie effect. Being used to the real Leslies, i though I heard a difference-its impressive no matter how Casio did it. And drawbars used for synth funcions-in real time. Can these canges be recorded in real time using the drawbars? Hmm....hat eto show my hand but I'm asking as there is an MZ on e***, I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger. Kris is quite a player...does he still do Casio demos? I know this one was a long time ago. And Ed Alstrom-another Casio name from the past-found some very detailed posts from him from way back. Guess Mike Martin has taken over some or all of his chores. That's what keeps me watching Casio-just when you think they are predictable, they throw in an MZ-2000. or a GP piano-or the PX560, or......

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.