Muso7 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) Hi guys I know this has come up a few times before - sorry!!! My MZ keybed was perfect when I bought it, then in a fairly short time the keys became noisy - almost like a "creak". It was deemed to be a warrantable issue and our local Casio service centre "repaired it" (I believe lubricated it) It was then back to perfect silent keys BUT now, after only a couple of weeks, it's noisy again. (EDIT: recorded in my studio and the key noise was picked up through mics and hence unacceptable) So what do I do? If all MZs are like this then I guess I put up with it or sell it or try for a refund???? Anyone have a perfectly quiet keybed (i.e. for a long time!!) Cheers Pete Edited October 22, 2018 by Muso7 Added comment... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casiokid Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Korg keyboards operate with the same midi channels for Upper 1 & 2 and Lower 1 & 2 (Korg equivalent R 1, 2, 3 and L) so by coupling the MZ via midi cables with a Korg keyboard you could access and operate the MZ by means of a Korg keyboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muso7 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Thanks - appreciate that but have my Korgs MIDI'd up already Guess I would really like my Casio to be like it was out of the box just a very short while ago. Will talk to my retailer later this week and see what he suggests..... 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casiokid Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I know a guy who plays his MZ-X500 from his Pa4X 76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamranju Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 My MZX300 keybed has become very noisy over the past months. I am pretty sure it is the same keybed that my WK-6600 has. So much for a step-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 If you research this problem here for other keyboards-you may find that I also found the XW-P1 keys fairly noisy-and added felt to that keyboard too which made a big difference. Unfortunately many newer keyboards seem to be sacrificing keyboard quality in an effort to maximize profits I would imagine, Casio is not the only one. Only the piano action keyboards seem to be competing for having the best construction, but at quite a bit more cost. The culprit seems to be not enough felt to cushion the keys on impact, and the plastic cases seem unable to damper the mechanical sounds inside. Of course, heavier external casings would defeat the idea of a lightweight portable keyboard. can't have everything, I guess, but I have modded several keyboards because of the noise factor, and not just Casios. Older non-piano action keyboards had springs and heavier key construction as well as steel frameworks-all these helped keep the clackyness factor down I think, but also add weight. Casio uses keys that rely on part of the back of the key for the action-a small plastic strip connects several keys together. This is a silent mechanism, it is only the key impact points that cause the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muso7 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Well I had it "repaired" under warranty and it was like new but only for a couple of weeks then noisy keys again. Now I have had it completely replaced so I will see how this new one goes. Apparently the keybed itself is not "replaceable" and hard to get to. I hope I get to keep this keyboard but cannot live with the noisy keys if they return. Cheers Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sslyutov Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Thank you Muso7 for the information about the quality of the keys! Sooner Casio will recognize that the keys noise is a serious factor for people to make a decision about the next purchase, sooner its products will get to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muso7 Posted November 21, 2018 Author Share Posted November 21, 2018 Yes I hope Casio check out this issue that a few others have experienced too. For me, it is not just the fact that the keys are noisy - I owned a Roland A33 which had the noisiest keybed I've played BUT it was consistent across the entire keyboard. What bothered me with my MZ was that it was NOT all keys but enough to make it very annoying and the noise could be described as a "creak". Anyhow Casio have Kindly replaced my keyboard and hopefully I can continue now and enjoy this truly great instrument. Cheers Pete 😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sslyutov Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Muso7 said: Yes I hope Casio check out this issue that a few others have experienced too. For me, it is not just the fact that the keys are noisy - I owned a Roland A33 which had the noisiest keybed I've played BUT it was consistent across the entire keyboard. What bothered me with my MZ was that it was NOT all keys but enough to make it very annoying and the noise could be described as a "creak". Anyhow Casio have Kindly replaced my keyboard and hopefully I can continue now and enjoy this truly great instrument. Cheers Pete 😀 Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTapani Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I don’t know what Casio was thinking when they put such a cheap keyboard on pro-level, expensive instrument. My Microarranger and Reface YC were cheaper but both are built better and there’s no annoying clicketyclack-sound. Now that Casio has improved their sound across all their products, they should focus on fixing the keyboard and ditch that old, obviously flawed design. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sslyutov Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, MTapani said: I don’t know what Casio was thinking when they put such a cheap keyboard on pro-level, expensive instrument. My Microarranger and Reface YC were cheaper but both are built better and there’s no annoying clicketyclack-sound. Now that Casio has improved their sound across all their products, they should focus on fixing the keyboard and ditch that old, obviously flawed design. Just a note - the keyboards you mentioned do not have full-size keys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANY Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Bonjour, les touches sont devenues bruyantes au bout de 18 mois, ce n'est pas trop gênant a volume fort, ce problème était aussi sur mon Casio CTK 6000. Hello, the keys became noisy at the end of 18 months, it is not too embarrassing at high volume, this problem was also on my Casio CTK 6000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muso7 Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just repeating.... my MZ was replaced under warranty - so far the new replacement is fine.... difficult to play with my fingers crossed though 😉 Happy New Year Pete 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANY Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 for me, it's not too embarrassing for the moment ... happy new year!🇫🇷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonh Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Casio was never known for the best keybed saying that you get what you pay for and that is not a criticism because even the big guys in the industry have to cut the corners i.e new Yamaha MODX series especially MODX 8 have issues with the keybed because they put all of the Montage hardware in affordable package so something have to give in . Casio does great job with super affordable prices in the case of MZ series is a steal I have Casio watch which cost much more than MZ so why complain you want the best quality buy Genos for 3000£ a bit more expensive than MZ 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Has anyone tried to replace the white keys from the CT-X series to MZ-X and CTK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I would need to study internal diagrams of the CT-X, Brad would know more about this. I'm not sure you will gain much of an improvement. My XW-P1 looks almost the same as the CTK keybed, and with a little more felt inside under the keys, made a dramatic difference in the comfort and noise factor and that's all I needed to make it very playable, and i switch between pianos and spring-action keys alot. But each range of keys are attached to each other in a specific order and keyed to specific screw assembly points, so chances are it is not a perfect match between the CT-X and MZ-X, CTK. if you know someone technically skilled with music keyboards-it is do-able, providing your keyboard is not under warranty and take full responsibility for whatever changes you make. Check this forum, there are alot of posts about how to do this, and Google or similar search may help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 As far as I know, Casio has not changed the design of the piano style box end keys. The WK-8000 is the earliest model I know of that used that design. Keys on any portable model since that one should be interchangeable. Of course that doesn't include mini keyboards, lighted keyboards and digital piano keys. That's my educated guess so don't quote me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Look. 1. CTK 2. CT-X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Looks like they combined two parts into one at some point. I'll guess that they are still interchangeable with the previous two-part white key trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Brad Saucier said: Looks like they combined two parts into one at some point. I'll guess that they are still interchangeable with the previous two-part white key trees. Maybe they changed because there were complaints?And this construction does not creak or knock?But to find out, it takes time ...... Or need to try somewhere to buy and replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANY Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Quote more than MZ so why complain you want the best quality buy Genos for 3000£ a bit more expensive than MZ 😁 Il ne faut pas comparer le MZ X et le Genos, 6 X plus cher. Je ne suis pas sur qu'il est 6 X mieux... Do not compare the MZ X and Genos, 6 X more expensive. I'm not sure he's 6 X better ...😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Stirling Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 10/22/2018 at 3:51 AM, Casiokid said: I know a guy who plays his MZ-X500 from his Pa4X 76 I know him too! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roncist Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 According to clicky/clacky keys I found this short video on youtube - but I think you can lost the casio quarantee - I dont know it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAX19ZKP8vQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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