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Next Generation Privia (Casio PX-S1000 & PX-S3000)


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Important things I noticed immediately:

 

Adjustable layer/split balance, detuning, and damper toggle are available. Very nice to see after they were left out of the CDP-S models.

 

"Tap tempo" functionality can be assigned to the damper pedal for hands-free tempo changes.

 

The Hall Sim/Surround effects can be applied to external sound sources (bluetooth/aux in jack) as well as the internal sound engine. Nice for the iPad/VST crowd.

 

You can disable the LED control panel if you just want the sleek black look during a performance.

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2 hours ago, Chandler Holloway said:

Nice for the iPad/VST crowd.

 

I'd like to think it would work for VST's, but I don't think Bluetooth audio in will be useful for iPad musicians for the same reason they didn't implement Bluetooth MIDI.... too much latency.  It'll be great for listening or playing along with pre-recorded music tracks.   

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I'm going to direct you to the thread about these keyboards where nearly everything is being discussed. That said, I'm not sure what you mean by specifications. Casio only talks about the specs of the keyboards generally. The chips in the new PX-S are more powerful than the ones that are in the CT-X models, and those were pretty impressive.

 

Check out the thread, and ask your questions there if you need to.

 

 

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If you really want a new PX-S3000, here it is the first one I've seen on eBay-from Japan, priced accordingly (stupendously expensive in other words-and it is called a "pre-sale" whatever that is.

 

 

372612186389?hash=item56c16ac115:g:NcEAAhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/PreSale-CASIO-88-keyboard-Electronic-Piano-Privia-PX-S3000BK/372612186389?hash=item56c16ac115:g:NcEAAOSwO7pcdF9x:rk:79:pf:0

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372612178423?_trkparms=aid=333200%26algoAnd as I looked, the same vendor (I think)  from the same vendor-appears the PX-S1000 for almost 1000 US dollars. I can't vouch for either listing, I have no connection-heck I can't even speak Japanese...and these may Japanese versions-including markings in Japanese, with Japanese screens. 

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I would wait for new, official releases. I think the PX-S1000 is supposed to be available this month in the U.S., with the PX-S3000 coming in April. Have some patience. Go practice on what you have now and distract yourself from wanting the shiny new thing until it's available. That's what I do.

 

A few weeks or a couple of months is not a lot of time in the grand scheme of things.

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This a short story of discovery - but the last video seems to answer the question of sound engine chipset... hopefully, accurately.

I've been creating music for years and have only dabbled in orchestration. About three months ago I decided to put out a serious orchestral project. I realized that my Axiom 61 wasn't going to cut it, for this project. I wanted a piano feel and sound. I went to Guitar Center to try out the feel for a couple of keyboards, planning to use my VSTi instruments. 

I tried every keyboard there, and one in particular really blew me away - The Casio CDP S100 (and the S350). [I admit, being primarily a guitarist and vocalist, I didn't even know Casio was still around, let alone making professional level keyboards. Consider me impressed!] The feel of the keyboard felt just like a real piano. They had more expensive Yamaha's and Rolands, etc., but none felt this good. The sound of the speakers impressed me, too, and I loved their dual direction design. Little did I know that this had only recently been released. After I returned home I obsessed over reviews and videos online and discovered the Privia PX S1000 and S3000.

Originally, I didn't think I wanted the CDP-S350 over the CDP-S100 (nor the Privia PX-S3000 over the PX-S1000). I don't have any need for backing rhythms, nice as they are, nor did I think I could use the multiple instruments because they are usually added as an after-thought, and sound as such. I was pretty sure the CDP-S100 and my VSTi(s) was all I needed.

Then I discovered a great video by PianoManChuck. The AiR sound engine seems to be top-notch in reproducing a real sounding piano. But AiR doesn't do near as well with string and wind instruments as the AIX does great with expressive string and wind instruments.


 

Then I read, over at YamahaMusicians that... 'Mike Martin at Casio USA, the CDP-S100 does indeed use AHL ii, but the CDP-S350 uses "a variant of AiX."' All so confusing! But now I needed a Privia, for sure. I need AiR!!
 

When I discovered this next video, it made everything worse... and better! 

 

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.. I realized that I required a MOD wheel. Such a wonderful technique to truly put an original quality to every note played on Strings and Winds. So, all of a sudden I realized that the PX-S1000 wasn't going to work.  Unless I could get the PX_S1000 and supplement it with a simple, usb 2-wheel expression 'box'? (Like the size of a guitar pedal.) Nope! (Why are there no add-on expression wheels being made anywhere? I am still dumbfounded about this fact.)

So, that led me to realize I needed to get the Privia PX-S3000. Around the same time, I discovered the feature of sympathetic resonance in the Privia PX-3000, and once heard, I realized I wouldn't want to do without it. I was still disappointed that the Strings and Winds would be lacking, but I have Mike Verta's technique to help out there. :)  Even if there are VSTi(s) are out there that offer sympathetic resonance, I still needed the MOD wheel/knob. [Are there VSTi(s) that have this?]

 

While reading on here, it seemed the type of sound engine chipset within the new Privias seemed to be ambiguous. Was it AiR or AiR 2 or What? Then another PianoManChuck video comes to my attention and delivers a great, game-changing, piece of knowledge (video below). And man do I hope he is right!

 

 

 

I really hope this is true. A double chipset with AiR for piano and AIX for Strings and Winds? Sympathetic Resonance?  Privia PX-S3000? Yes, please and thank you. :)

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Wow, that's an impressive number of audio demo's for the PX-S3000.  I'm not sure on this, but my ears are suggesting to me that the PX-S3000 has two different sampled grand pianos inside.  Grand Piano Concert and Stage Piano sound like quite different piano timbres.  Could this be?  Hmmmm.....    Mike?   

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Hi @kybdsammer and thanks for posting. To my ears the rhythms sampled are the same rhythms that are on the CT-X rang of keyboards.

 

I am longing to see fully-fledged demonstrations of the PX-S3000 of complete tunes with the new piano tones, the rhythms etc.

 

Cheers.

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On 3/10/2019 at 11:54 PM, Brad Saucier said:

Wow, that's an impressive number of audio demo's for the PX-S3000.  I'm not sure on this, but my ears are suggesting to me that the PX-S3000 has two different sampled grand pianos inside.  Grand Piano Concert and Stage Piano sound like quite different piano timbres.  Could this be?  Hmmmm.....    Mike?   

 

Not different samples actually.  That is just the flexibility of the system. ;)

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So, I ended up getting the CDP S100, after having the CDP S350 overnight. Once home, I new immediately that I liked the S100's piano sound better. (I don't need the play-along beats, nor the slew of instruments.) I believe the reason it sounds better is the S100's AHL (variant of AiR) sound-engine over the S350's variant of of AiX. I would have waited for the Privia PX S3000, for the Air2 sound-engine and the two MOD knobs, but I determined the price difference was better if I combined the S100 with the Alesis VI49. Musician's Friend had a $100 of sale on the CDP S series, and Guitar Center price-matched it. So the two keyboards together was around $550.

I'm a seasoned guitarist, songwriter and vocalist but I have always had a love for classical compositions. I'm familiar with the piano, but never practiced. Even though I'm in the middle of the second album for my project, Folkwood, I'm beginning to compose my first classical album. I couldn't be more pleased with the piano sessions over the past week of owning the CDP S100. Upon playing it, I soon forget that I'm not playing a real piano, and ideas come without much effort.

 

The reason I needed MOD control was for the orchestral VSTi instruments I have in my DAW (Studio One v4), and the VI49 feels great for that.

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I've had a PX s3000 on order from Sweetwater since NAMM, and they just let me know that it should arrive at their store late this week and then they'll ship it my way.  Once I get it I'll make sure to let you folks know my thoughts.  I did see an s1000 at the local music store, and I was a big fan of the new action compared to other casios.  Action preference is such an individual thing though.

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On 2/15/2019 at 9:26 PM, AlenK said:

 

Not being signed up there is no great loss. I read it from time to time but don't post there anymore. Too many histrionic posters. Very ingrained group think. 

 

You're kidding right?  I go to Keyboard Corner every day, it's the best, in my experience, keyboard forum I've ever found.  You get lots and lots of super knowledgeable folks like AnotherScott (who posts in this forum, has a mzx500), and there's quite a few regulars, many of them older folks that've been around keys since the 70's/80's; and to top it off it's one of the most congenial forums I've ever been on, it rarely if ever gets rancorous or mean spirited.  That said, a few of the regulars can get a little crusty from time to time.

 

Coming to this forum for support for my MZ-X500, I was dissapointed to find it was very sparcely populated compared to the Keyboard Corner, which is natural given these are all dedicated forums to specific boards.  I do wish there were more 'experts' on this forum, I really appreciate folks who know considerably more than I do and have a penchant for sharing it.  Shout out for Brad Saucier, who seems to know everything, and a few of the super knowledgeable folks who give us the benefit of their expertise.

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