Trumpeter Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Can someone give me some pointers on how to take the basic timpani tone and make it into a timpani roll, preferably using a knob, slider or the mod wheel to control the speed of the roll? Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Not sure except for possibly taking the timpani tone and using an LFO somehow. One of my keyboards or modules has a xylophone tone set to repeat-but the speed of the repeat is constant as is the dynamics-not too realistic. Short of that-a digital drum pad- a simple single pad controller would be fine even a cheap drum machine with buttons could to it, midi'ed to the PX5, if you can handle the sticks or your fingers. The dynamics would be tough to convey simultaneously unless you used both one controller for the speed and one for expression. Maybe Brad or someone has a better idea. I use a single key-one finger towards the key end, the other closer to the middle-not too elegant with a piano-action key though. Much easier on a spring-action key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Saucier Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Program the arpeggiator or a phrase to do it. Speed can be controlled by assigning tempo to a slider or knob. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XW-Addict Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I wish temp changes by controller could be select to reset after use the case Its more desirable to use arpeggio with a specified note duration rather then tempo though. For the timpani I'll suggest giving more release for some room and choosing arpeggio thrill and edit it to U2 with two steps and different velocity so it can be triggered with two notes an octave apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob green Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Best emulation of this I ever had was on an OLLLLLLLLD Ensoniq SD-1.....the way they did it, the note being rolled triggered on BOTH the key down and key up. Kind of I guess how that problem of keys retriggering on release occurs, only in this case on purpose. Speed of the roll was controlled by speed of pressing and releasing the key, and velocity controlled the dynamic and timbre of the tympani. Would there be a way to program this? It made for a pretty realistic sounding roll..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 49 minutes ago, bob green said: Best emulation of this I ever had was on an OLLLLLLLLD Ensoniq SD-1.....the way they did it, the note being rolled triggered on BOTH the key down and key up. Kind of I guess how that problem of keys retriggering on release occurs, only in this case on purpose. Speed of the roll was controlled by speed of pressing and releasing the key, and velocity controlled the dynamic and timbre of the tympani. Would there be a way to program this? It made for a pretty realistic sounding roll..... This is easily done on the PX-5S in a Hex Layer program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Timpani HexLayer Key-off "Roll" attached. TIMPANI_.ZLT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 2:52 PM, Trumpeter said: Can someone give me some pointers on how to take the basic timpani tone and make it into a timpani roll, preferably using a knob, slider or the mod wheel to control the speed of the roll? Many thanks. Would you want the dynamics to get louder as the tempo got faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeter Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks Mike. This works well. I assigned the regular Timpani tone to Zone 1, and your Key-off hex tone to Zone 2 with Zone 2 volume on/off via a foot switch. So I play regular single-strokes until I hit the foot switch, then I can do the roll on the key and have control over volume and tempo. Many thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokeyman123 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 If only I knew this before I bought these d**** timpani-my wife told me to get them out of the kitchen, or no food for me anymore!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Williams Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 3/31/2020 at 8:50 AM, Jokeyman123 said: If only I knew this before I bought these d**** timpani-my wife told me to get them out of the kitchen, or no food for me anymore!!!!!!! If they're copper, perhaps you could remove the heads and use 'em to make homemade apple butter over a large fire. Hmm. With apologies to non-US readers: 40 gallons apple butter at 8 dollars per quart -> $320. Make three batches and you could probably pay for one timpano. Built-in fund raising for the concert band. See you later -- I gotta go patent that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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